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Old 11-10-2021, 12:13 PM   #1
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2021 F-250 towing a 5th wheel

I have a 21 F-250 with 6.2 gas and 7 30 rears and the wife and i are considering a 5th wheel that is 8800# empty with a total loaded weight of 11,000#

according to all the numbers i am finding that gives me some room as my gcwr is 19,500 and towing capacity is 12,600 but what i want to know is this too much weight for this truck? i dont want to be dragging bumper going down the road just because a sticker said it can do it

anyone have any experience with 5th wheels and f250's

any advice or pics of set ups would be awesome

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2 or 4WD?
Box size or wheelbase?
Payload? (on the sticker on the drivers door jamb)

The GCWR is 22,000lbs. The tow cap is about 15K. loaded.

Maybe consider airbags or some kind of supplemental suspension.

But in short...it should be fine.
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I am in upstate ny so i just assumed that everyone knew it was 4wd but it has a 6 ' box

i wish i didnt need a 4wd but that damn snow thing
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If you visit a CAT Scale you can get your actual weights. IMHO your limiting number will be the available payload on the rear axle. The weight sticker on the drivers door will Rear GAWR. Subtract the rear axle weight (from the CAT Scale ticket)from the rear weight rating number (Rear GAWR), then subtract another 200# to account for a 5th hitch. That number is the available payload on the rear axle. That’s roughly the maximum pin weight you should consider. Let’s say that’s 2500#. If you divide that number by 0.25 you get an estimated maximum 5th weight (loaded weight).
In my example 2500/0.25 gives 10,000#.
Don’t forget this a loaded number, I would suggest comparing that estimate to the 5th’s GAWR, if the estimated max weight is less than the GAWR you should be good to go.
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As mentioned, the sticker inside your driver's door gives you your payload capacity. Look at that to determine if you can safely haul it.

Normally gasser F-250s have a pretty high payload. My old one had a payload of 3300 lbs. For reference, my diesel F-250 has a payload of 2400lbs.

So, if your gasser is like my old one, you should be OK on payload with an 11000 GVW trailer. You have the right gearing (4.10) so I would assume you will be fine.

You might want to consider airbags or Timbrens, mainly because F-250s sit almost level in their stock trim, so if the rear end drops much, you end up blinding everyone with your headlights.

If you can trade it back without taking a beating on price, you might want to consider an F-350. But that is up to you.
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There's no way to have a "can I tow it?" conversation without the payload. The conversation starts there. There are a zillion similar topics here and they all go the same direction: payload.

As has been asked a few times, what does your payload sticker on your door jamb say?
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We have an F250 gas, 10,000# gross weight. We have a 10,995 max weight 5th wheel. Last time we weighed, we were 700# over on our trailer, and 140# over on our truck's gross weights. So we need to take less stuff, and we will be barely within payload.

If you travel light, you should be ok. but you'll be right on the edge, like us.

Remember that it's the actual weights (on a scale) that matter. The yellow sticker is what it weighed when it left the factory. Everything and every person you put in the truck adds weight, takes away from your available payload. Payload goes away really fast.
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Donít even need math on this one. Gasser 250Ö. Relatively light FW. Iíd say youíre good. Youíll have payload to spare.
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Donít even need math on this one. Gasser 250Ö. Relatively light FW. Iíd say youíre good. Youíll have payload to spare.
Have to agree with this as my '17 F-250 gasser has 3305lbs of payload. Even in the highest trim levels he should be around 2800-3000lbs.
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Even a cursory look at these numbers shows the opposite of your conclusion.

An 11,000 lb 5er drops ~2,300 lbs on the truck. Add people, hitch, gear, options, bed liners, pets, wood, and whatever else at ~700 lbs. That's 3,000 lbs, which is right in the middle of that range you gave. So, yes, the math is definitely worth doing and getting the actual payload of that truck is worth it. This isn't a complete no-brainer ... it could be a few hundred pounds on the good or bad side of the line.
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Maybe. I just canít imagine a gas 250 wouldnít have the payload to pull an 8800lbs dry FW. Even with factory options and propane, I wouldnít think heíd ever reach the max of 11K. Thatís a pretty light FW. Definitely 3/4 ton territory. But, Iíve been wrong before. At least once.

I did make the assumption a gas 250 would have the same GVWR as a diesel thus giving it more payload.
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In an F-250 or any 3/4 ton truck, there are multiple GVWs for license purposes. My own 2500HD is rated at 10,000 pounds when the actual GVW based on the equipment I have is 10,400 pounds. A friend has a 4wd F-250 diesel crew cab long bed that has exactly 230 more payload pounds than my 6cylinder 2wd extended cab 1/2 chevy! Does anyone really believe that my friends F-250 can only do that? Of course not. His GVW is only 9,900 pounds, that is why his CCC is so low! Maybe the OP will post a picture of his sticker. Jay
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Donít even need math on this one. Gasser 250Ö. Relatively light FW. Iíd say youíre good. Youíll have payload to spare.
I agree. OP should be fine. Even the heaviest F250 should be able to handle that with ease. Enjoy!
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I have a 2020 f250, 6.2 with 4:30 gears. I tow a 2022 Eagle 321rsts. I have a payload rating of 3150. My trailer weighs in at 12,500 loaded. After scaling Iím 250 pounds under my payload. Ive been happy with how it performs.
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