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Old 12-03-2023, 06:59 PM   #1
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2022 Jayco North Point 5th Wheel Towing Question

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I am new to the forum, so I hope am in the right place for this question.
I recently purchased a 2022 Jayco North Point that's 43feet long. approximately 14500 lbs. I have a 2022 Ford F250 6.7 Deisel FX 4X4 towing trailer package.
I am wondering if this is enough truck to safely pull this beast of an RV. my hunch is no. but trying to figure out all the numbers and capacities is very confusing to me. If this F250 is not enough I was thinking about getting an F350 Dually 6.7 diesel. either a 2022 or 2023. any thought would be helpful.
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If you want to go by the sticker on your door, I'm sure you are over your payload. But the Class 2B designation is nothing more than a marketing gimmick to provide a vehicle that is at or under an arbitrary 10,000 lbs weight limit.

That said, there is very very little mechanical difference between a SRW F250 and SRW F350. I think a spacer block and an additional leaf in the rear spring pack. You can buy the spring pack or some air bags and replicate the same suspension. You can pay for a higher registration weight and be perfectly legal and safe with a F250.

A DRW F350 will be more than enough to pull that truck with room to spare.
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I was thinking of getting some Firestone airbags. But don't think that will help with the capacity limits. only to level out the truck. I pulled the 5th wheel home empty from the dealer and the truck handled nicely. It had only a minor sag in the rear of the truck. which will only increase when I add more weight to the truck and trailer. My concern is once its fully loaded (truck/trailer) that the truck may not handle it safely in all conditions of weather or road conditions.
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You will hear many differing opinons, but there are numerous NP's and PINNACLES in our park, as well as other's, with 250/2500's parked in front of them. As spoon059 said, if you look at the build codes, the rear spring pack and tires are the major differences between the 250/2500 and 350/3500 SRW trucks.
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If I may add welcome to JOF, but on your North Point what is the gvwr of that 5th wheel since you didn't give the model number and at 43 ft long I would say your GVWR of the North Point is in the 16,000lbs-16,500lbs+.

To be really safe then if you are around that a dually would be your best bet, but you might can get away with a 3500 srw. If you are 16,500lbs or greater GVWR you figure at least 20%-22% of the 16,500lbs, like I said you might can get away with a strip down 3500 srw you would be at the max.

I would go dually but an srw 3500 will get it done you would have to watch your diet, and only put the weight that you think that you might need but that won't work after a while. Others will chime in and you came to the right place, traveling cross-country for a couple of years now I have seen 2500/ F250 towing triple axles rv's but they might feel comfortable doing it.
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The model is a 377RLBH the GVWR is 16995. which is more than I remembered. Since I am brand new to RVing is important to me to be safe and smart. I am at the point in my life where I cant afford to be reckless. ... Plus, the wife must feel safe as well, she and I talked about and researched everything we could on towing capacities and were left more confused. but at the end of the day, I want to do what's best. If the F250 is close to the limit where I have to be careful what I load, and the F350 is more than enough and I can load what whatever I want within reason, I don't mind then going that way. I will start looking at F350's and see what's out there.
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Yes, so as you have done the math 20% of 16,995 is going to run 3400lbs and if you go 22% of that it is 3739lbs. A 3/4 ton want have the payload to tow it safely, most 3/4 will have about 3400lbs some will have about 2900lbs it all depends on the trim level, people do it but hey you have to do what is best for you, and your family.

So you have to add in for your truck the people, fuel, tools, 5th wheel hitch, and whatever other equipment you have inside of the truck, at 20% most 1-ton SRW will run out of payload and some if you find a strip down 1 ton the payload might me 4000+ you will be very close but doable.

Anyway, you can see that the numbers can add up quickly, so this is a start others will chime in and give their comments.
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Does your 250 have the High Capacity Tow Package? If so, it makes it virtually identical to a single rear wheel 350. The only differences are one leaf spring as well as the recommended rear tire pressure.

That being said, a 43 ft North Point is too much for a 250 and a SRW 350 won’t be much better. The pin weight on that one is well into dually territory.
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Does your 250 have the High Capacity Tow Package? If so, it makes it virtually identical to a single rear wheel 350. The only differences are one leaf spring as well as the recommended rear tire pressure.

That being said, a 43 ft North Point is too much for a 250 and a SRW 350 won’t be much better. The pin weight on that one is well into dually territory.

Yes, I agree also.
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Thank you all for your help, much appreciated.
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You will hear many differing opinons, but there are numerous NP's and PINNACLES in our park, as well as other's, with 250/2500's parked in front of them. As spoon059 said, if you look at the build codes, the rear spring pack and tires are the major differences between the 250/2500 and 350/3500 SRW trucks.
The F250 and F350 have the same tires. The difference is the recommended air pressure:

60 front/65 rear for 250
60 front/80 rear for 350
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There's a lotta could be should be might be going on. The only way to be sure about the numbers on paper is to look up your VIN and find the actual towing capacity (with a 5th wheel) and rear axle payload then look up the trailer (or, better, get it weighed).

As mentioned though, there isn't a huge difference between 250s and 350s off paper and towing is 95% driver. Back in college I towed almost double the rating with my little toyota pickup 300 miles, twice (3500 rating, 6500 easy trailer+cargo, truck wasn't stock suspension tho) At one point a 3/4 ton and little utility trailer that couldn't have been more than 2k lb passed me at what had to be 80 or 90 mph. Few miles later I passed him sideways in the ditch.
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We tow our rig with an F350 long bed srw with a yellow sticker load capacity of 4054 pounds. Our Pinnacle has 15,500 GVWR but weighs in at 14,700 fully loaded. My hitch weight is 3120. The brochure hitch weight was less than 2500 pounds but that's with nothing in it. It is usually significantly more in real weights. As others have said you are very likely well over on your payload. If I were in your shoes I would be shopping for a dually as even a truck like mine is probably at the upper limits for your NP. Good luck.
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There is a difference in most trucks. My F350 has a weight capacity of 4800 lbs on the driver door sticker. If you can't search the vin, look on the driver door of your truck..
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Hello everyone,

I am new to the forum, so I hope am in the right place for this question.
I recently purchased a 2022 Jayco North Point that's 43feet long. approximately 14500 lbs. I have a 2022 Ford F250 6.7 Deisel FX 4X4 towing trailer package.
I am wondering if this is enough truck to safely pull this beast of an RV. my hunch is no. but trying to figure out all the numbers and capacities is very confusing to me. If this F250 is not enough I was thinking about getting an F350 Dually 6.7 diesel. either a 2022 or 2023. any thought would be helpful.
Here is the chart that Ford publishes. You could be good or right on the line depending on how your truck was built.

https://www.vdm.ford.com/content/dam...Info_Oct20.pdf
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We tow our rig with an F350 long bed srw with a yellow sticker load capacity of 4054 pounds. Our Pinnacle has 15,500 GVWR but weighs in at 14,700 fully loaded. My hitch weight is 3120. The brochure hitch weight was less than 2500 pounds but that's with nothing in it. It is usually significantly more in real weights. As others have said you are very likely well over on your payload. If I were in your shoes I would be shopping for a dually as even a truck like mine is probably at the upper limits for your NP. Good luck.

Yes, I agree with F350guy.
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Hello everyone,

I am new to the forum, so I hope am in the right place for this question.
I recently purchased a 2022 Jayco North Point that's 43feet long. approximately 14500 lbs. I have a 2022 Ford F250 6.7 Deisel FX 4X4 towing trailer package.
I am wondering if this is enough truck to safely pull this beast of an RV. my hunch is no. but trying to figure out all the numbers and capacities is very confusing to me. If this F250 is not enough I was thinking about getting an F350 Dually 6.7 diesel. either a 2022 or 2023. any thought would be helpful.
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With that much weight go with a DRW 350. You may be ok with the SRW weight wise but the extra stability of the DRW is worth it.
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We had a F350 SRW to pull our 40' 14k gvwr 5th wheel and changed to a DRW F350 when we got the '22 NP 377RLBH. It is very pin heavy especially with the washer/dryer up front to the tune of around 4k which would have put our SRW over the limit. DRW gives us a good margin and very stable ride.
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I have found out over the years that there is a line between "can" you tow something and "should" you tow something. We towed our NP with a 2500 for a short time, it was within the numbers but was not an enjoyable experience. Dually is much more stable and eliminates most of the white knuckle driving that makes for a very long travel day.
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