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Old 08-22-2014, 12:26 PM   #31
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I would add one 4x4 advantage that i did not see mentioned in previous posts. Now this is probably not as important to lighter trailers, but I sure do love using 4x4 LO for backing into tight spots. I love the extra control of the granny gear in backing my fiver beside my house and into difficult camping spots.
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Old 08-22-2014, 01:32 PM   #32
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I agree with this being a little bit personal preference and lot of how you camp/where you go, and the type of vehicle you have. I've had several 4WD vehicles and lots of 2WD. With my 2WD Suburbans they were so heavy I never felt I needed 4WD, ever. With my old Trailblazer, that thing couldn't handle accelerating from a stop in moderate snow without turning on the 4WD. Once many moons ago, I got stuck in wet grass with my PUP and '92 GMC Safari. Could have used it then!

If you look at GM and you don't want 4WD, make sure to at least get a truck with a tow package and/or Z71 option. Both of these options include the G80 locking rear end. Its not limited slip, it's better. Both my old Trailblazer and my current Sierra have the G80.

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Old 08-22-2014, 01:59 PM   #33
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My Avalanche has the rear locker. If I stop at my mailbox in the winter that just means both Goodyear Silent armors spin in place on my driveway. I need 4wd to make it up..
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Old 08-22-2014, 02:04 PM   #34
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Called a tow truck, like I had to when my 2WD truck and 5er got stuck in a campground. I was on grass, but it started to sink in even before I tried to move the rig. As soon as I lowered the pin on the truck, it sunk into the soggy ground about an inch. From that point, and being slightly up hill, no amount of skill would have gotten the rig out.

I've never called a tow truck. I learned to drive back in the 70's when few pick ups were 4x4s and we managed just fine. When I was a kid my dad towed our trailer with a Plymouth Fury wagon and I don't remember him ever getting stuck


I say it's more of a nice to have occasionally rather then a must have. It will always cost you money and performance though.
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Old 08-22-2014, 02:16 PM   #35
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Regarding performance hit and lower mpgs, that's minimal. This isn't 1975. Like a modern gas engine, the technology and tolerances are far better today so unless you drive in 4Hi all the time, there will be very little difference in performance or gas mileage. not enough to make a real difference. What you will lose is some towing capacity and more important, payload. Generally I think the trade off is worth it though.

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My Avalanche has the rear locker. If I stop at my mailbox in the winter that just means both Goodyear Silent armors spin in place on my driveway. I need 4wd to make it up..
Must be a steep hill! Seriously, having the G80 is better than not having it. And isn't meant to replace 4WD, but augment it. Watch the video.
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Old 08-22-2014, 02:25 PM   #36
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Yes I am glad I have the G80 and 4wd. I am not as skilled as pualx213 dad !!!
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Old 08-22-2014, 03:44 PM   #37
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Yes I am glad I have the G80 and 4wd. I am not as skilled as pualx213 dad !!!
I guess his skills are just too awesome for me to comprehend. I've been in situations in the winter on hunting area trails where 4WD was almost not enough. Never got stuck with 4WD though, except when my father-in-law and I thought it would be fun to drive through the farm pond muddy supply stream. Oh well, he had a tractor to pull it out. It was a lot of fun though. Until my wife discovered that we had gotten her vehicle stuck.
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Old 08-28-2014, 10:20 AM   #38
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I've never called a tow truck. I learned to drive back in the 70's when few pick ups were 4x4s and we managed just fine. When I was a kid my dad towed our trailer with a Plymouth Fury wagon and I don't remember him ever getting stuck
Did y'all camp in the mountains or cookie cutter campgrounds?

No way a Plymouth Fury is getting a camper into some of the places we have been.

I've never called a tow truck either. Then again my dad wore a harness and pulled the camper like a mule. We never got stuck.
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Old 08-28-2014, 11:03 AM   #39
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I've never called a tow truck either. Then again my dad wore a harness and pulled the camper like a mule. We never got stuck.


I've only gotten stuck bad enough to call a tow truck twice. Both times were with a 4x4. It was a 1988 Suburban, and both times we had it up to the rocker panels in mud. No way was that thing going anywhere!

Anyway, my point is that if you have 2wd, you know not to attempt something that will get you stuck. I've never gotten any of my 2wd vehicles stuck for tat exact reason; I know better than to try it. The 4x4 gives me a bit of false confidence (my own weakness).
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you know not to attempt something that will get you stuck. I've never gotten any of my 2wd vehicles stuck for tat exact reason; I know better than to try it. The 4x4 gives me a bit of false confidence (my own weakness).
Recently I was just trying to get into a camping spot after a rain storm and without 4wd I would not have made it. If I had 2wd I still would have attempted it. I mean I drove all the way there
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