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Originally Posted by bhepper
I have a 2014 Ram Outdoorsman Hemi 6'4" w/3.92. Also have a 2012 Jayco 29QBH travel trailer. Over GVWR as well as RGAWR by 80-100lbs once loaded. Contemplating a HD truck. Go 5-7 times a summer with furthest distances in the 120-130 mile range (one way) at no more than 60mph. It is my daily driver (currently have 24k miles) with very short trips during the day. Probably 2-3 mile trips, 4-5 times per day at most.
Was originally going to wait for a 6.4l Hemi config to show up used due to the short trips but they are proving hard to find much less with a bench seat.
There is a 2016 w/~52k miles and 6.7L Cummins configured much like how I would want the rest of the truck to be in my price range so have considered the diesel. I also may be getting a car to drive when not pulling or needing the truck but don't know for sure.
Current truck ratings:
GCWR is 15,600
GVWR is 6,900
F&R GAWR are 3,900lb ea
The scales slips I have are loaded truck ready to camp. Truck with very top chain loop engaged on WDH and Truck with WDH engaged to second loop. When using the 2nd loop from the top the bars do start to bend (1000lb rating).
Should I forgo the diesel and wait for a 6.4L? Get the diesel but only if getting a car to daily with? Say screw it get the diesel? Or keep my truck and say screw GVWR and GAWR?
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Didn't read all of the replies to your thread as I'm currently sanitizing my water system for a trip this weekend (I have algae growing in my hot water tank
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Anyway, on the diesel vs/ Gas topic. You can see which direction I went in my sig. I factory ordered my truck because nobody had exactly what I wanted. So that part took about 3 months... not bad. My rebates went up, the money I owed on my trade went down... I 'saved' about 3500 dollars by factory ordering.
Back to the point. The 2017 6.2 motor is amazing. The diesel will always pull more, easier. BUT, as a dual role daily driver (in town traffic) + being able to tow whatever I want, the gas motor was the only choice for us.
It's almost 9K now to upgrade to the diesel, I spent that money elsewhere on the truck. Mine would have been about 75K with the diesel, and I'm already paying 1200+ dollars a year just to put tags on this truck. In my state, the diesel would have added at least 300 a year to registration fees, more expensive fuel and maintenance. Sure, they probably do go a million miles... but not important for me... resale is also higher, but once you factor in ALL of the opportunity costs to go Diesel, I doubt you break even with the money. Nobody has ever proven otherwise.
Get the diesel if you want and you can justify the cost. That's really the main factor. These new gas motors tow as well as my diesel did 12 years ago. You'll lose some payload capacity and your costs will be higher, but only you know what your budget can justify. You either need it, or you want it. Usually not both. If you do go diesel, make sure you go with the 350 so you don't kill your payload numbers with that heavy motor.
If you go gas, definitely get the 4.30 gears too. Really, the only choice I would recommend against, is a 250 with that seriously heavy diesel motor. Most of us are upgrading trucks for payload, not 'pulling power'.