Advice Appreciated for new TV

[LBI Suz]

Hi guys,

We are unfortunately in need of a new TV after a stupid teenager turned in front of us on a red light (for him). Thank God we were not towing. Our Tundra is toast. I won't be camping for at least another month since I received four broken ribs in the process. This has given me a lot of free time to research a new TV though.

Some basics:

We have a Jayco Whitehawk 29REKS approx 8100 loaded, two adults generally in the truck (350 lbs), our Golden Retriever and occasionally a generator. Equalizer WD hitch with sway control, Tekonsha P3 equipped before. We did all the calculations and while the Tundra was within limits after reading here I'm lobbying for a bigger TV.

So advice...we are used to Toyota and it's reliability and I'm nervous going with Ford (250) or Dodge (2500 possibly diesel). Never been in the shop for anything other than normal maintenance since 1992. Those of you with these vehicles...are you happy with your vehicles? Regret leaving Tundra? Any years to stay clear of? Looking at 2010-2016s.

After this experience, safety is my number one concern. As much as I loved my Tundra, I want to be as safe as I can be and I know it pulled well but stopping is just as important.

Thanks for any advice, truly appreciated!

[Jagiven]

Ouch, I hope you heal completely, and can get back to camping soon!

Have you considered the F150 3.5L Twin Turbo, with the Tow Max configuration? I recently was comparing the specs to the F250 Gasser, they are really similar. Not sure how they compare in price thou.

[need-a-vacation]

Stay away from the Ford 6.0 diesel, and do your research on the 6.4 diesel.

Ram, either diesel is awesome!!! Think it's only the 6.4 (think that's the size) since before '10. If you go gas, try to find a 6.4L vs the 5.7L. More payload, better trans as I understand, and had been impressing a lot of people.

Don't rule out the GM. The 6.0 gas motor is very reliable. Would suggest an '11 or newer due to a new frame vs '10 & older. Diesel wise the D-Max is very reliable.

Good luck shopping!!!

[SouthCo]

Originally Posted by need-a-vacation

Don't rule out the GM. The 6.0 gas motor is very reliable. Would suggest an '11 or newer due to a new frame vs '10 & older. Diesel wise the D-Max is very reliable.

Good luck shopping!!!

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[clarche]

Don't rule out the GM. The 6.0 gas motor is very reliable. Would suggest an '11 or newer due to a new frame vs '10 & older. Diesel wise the D-Max is very reliable.

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[2nOZ]

I have a 2017 F250 6.2L gasser and have pulled our 27DSRL about 1800 miles so far. My neighbor has a 2016 Ram 2500 Cummings diesel and has towed his 29' BH TT about 2000 miles so far. We both love the trucks we have.

[Cummins-a-pullin]

I have a '12 ram 2500 w/Cummins and my father has a '16 ram 2500 w/ the 6.4l. We both love the trucks and their power, only thing my dad says is he wish he got the 4.10 instead of the 3.73 for towing. Both trucks have been solid since day 1. Good luck with your search.

[Pcschwenke]

I love my 3500 SRW RAM 6.4l. 4:10 truck. To me the Chevy 6.0 is under powered and very thirsty even when not towing & I'm not a Ford guy. Too many bad experiences with them... I agree that the 4:10 gearing is great in any truck.

[robkelly]

Wishing you a speedy recovery. I'd driven nothing but Toyota for the past 25 years, so was very nervous giving up the Tundra for the Ram. Turns out my fears were unfounded though as I love the Ram and am very impressed with the quality and features. The 2500 is more than enough truck for your WH, but if buying a new TV it may be worth keeping your next TT in mind too as you don't want to get too little truck, especially if you go with a diesel - the diesel eats up a lot of your payload.

[Cummins-a-pullin]

One thing I will add is the ram's suspension is severely underrated, my truck has a laughable payload of 1895 (mega cab 4x4 Cummins, weighs in at 8300 lbs). Couple weeks ago I had 2 yards of topsoil that was very moist, safe guess would be 3,000 lbs and the truck sat dead nuts level, never hit the bump stops, no floating front end. Was I overloaded, yea, but the truck is way over built compared to the laughable payload numbers they come up with.

[vikefan7]

Originally Posted by Cummins-a-pullin

One thing I will add is the ram's suspension is severely underrated, my truck has a laughable payload of 1895 (mega cab 4x4 Cummins, weighs in at 8300 lbs). Couple weeks ago I had 2 yards of topsoil that was very moist, safe guess would be 3,000 lbs and the truck sat dead nuts level, never hit the bump stops, no floating front end. Was I overloaded, yea, but the truck is way over built compared to the laughable payload numbers they come up with.

I wholeheartedly agree with this, my '17 2500 diesel says 2109 pounds and i have the 29.5BHOK and it squats <1" in the rear when i hook up the trailer. I'm starting to agree with those who espouse the belief that on these particular trucks it's all about government regulations just to keep it at or below the 10,000 pound mark. Tows like a dream and i don't think i'll ever own anything but a diesel ever again.

[repacs0103]

Originally Posted by Cummins-a-pullin

Couple weeks ago I had 2 yards of topsoil that was very moist, safe guess would be 3,000 lbs and the truck sat dead nuts level, never hit the bump stops, no floating front end. Was I overloaded, yea, but the truck is way over built compared to the laughable payload numbers they come up with.

Actually dry topsoil runs about 2500 per yard, wet can be as high as 3600, so even more impressive than you thought!

I agree completely. I've had 6000-7000# on my 350 between bed weight and tongue weight and it still rides level. Here's 19000 pounds behind her with an estimated 5000 tongue weight .




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[LBI Suz]

Thanks so much for the replies! Taking all in to consideration for sure. I'm hoping for a quicker recovery for sure...tired of sleeping in a recliner lol

[rodro123]

Over the years I have owned Ram, Ford and Chevy. All 3 were ¾ ton or 1 ton. My personal favorite by far is the Chevy. It really doesn’t matter which one you choose they all copy each other in one way or another. I do only buy them new and sell them in after 5 model years. The market for used in HD trucks holds the value higher than non HD trucks. Gas trucks will go over 250k miles, and Diesel well over 500k.

You are correct Toyota Tundra is a great truck but it’s not a HD. Real trucks have over 5 lugs.

[Ruth]

Hope you heal quickly. We have a Silverado 2500 HD (see my sig) We have towed a 34' Puma and now a 27.5RKDS FW with no problems.

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[JeremiahM]

I'm a ford fan, but they've had their growing pains with certain diesels. If you go ford and diesel, 2012 and newer is where I'd stay if your not knowalgeble about the different engines. The 03-10 6.0L and 6.4L diesels are very popular for a certain crowd (me being one of them) because of their low market pricing for being HD trucks, but they require major attention to be made reliable. The 2011 6.7l PSD is okay, but is first of model, so stick with the 2012 And later, they have been proven to be pretty trouble free. If you go GM/Chevy, I agree with comment above, stick with 2011 and later with the beefier frame. But you will likely have a good experience with any of the 3 brands when talking newer trucks, it say go drive them all, and het the one most comfortable for you and your family

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[webbeyes]

I still think you'll miss all of the things that have endeared you to Toyota up until now.

Go to your local Enterprise or Budget Rent-a-truck and drive the competitors for a weekend. Take note of what you miss most.

If you can afford to stick with a Tundra, stick to it.

[LBI Suz]

Thanks for the new replies all. We are planning on going out today to do a little shopping.

We had an F150 rental last week and the ride was very smooth. My dad has the Ram Cummins Diesel 2500 and he loves it. Our neighbor owns a dealership and we chatted with him as well.

I would, in a heartbeat, get another Tundra if our trailer were lighter. I love them. I'm just thinking that we need something "beefier" and with more wiggle room in the weight department. As I said, I know we CAN tow with it, but we have the opportunity to do this now. Exploring each option for best safety for us and everyone around us!

[WVDusty]

While I absolutely love my ram 3500. If Toyota would build a 3/4 ton diesel I would be first in line lol.


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[Camper_bob]

Originally Posted by Cummins-a-pullin

I have a '12 ram 2500 w/Cummins and my father has a '16 ram 2500 w/ the 6.4l. We both love the trucks and their power, only thing my dad says is he wish he got the 4.10 instead of the 3.73 for towing. Both trucks have been solid since day 1. Good luck with your search.

+1 to the 4.10. I got the 3.73 because the truck around it was EXACTLY what I was looking for. Wish I had held out for the 4.10. With a 6-spd trans, the fuel economy difference is not something I would worry about, and is well worth it to get a better towing experience IMO.

That being said, I LOVE my truck. It does EVERYTHING I ask of it without question or complaint (and I work it pretty hard for a non-commercial vehicle). Of course, having a Cummins under the hood would be great, but the money and my usage pattern just don't work with a diesel.

I've always been a GM guy, and I owned a Tundra back in the day that I loved too. But when it came time to shop, the General and the Blue Oval weren't willing to work with me on price (nor was one of the first Ram dealers I went to either). But I eventually got what I consider to be a good deal on a great truck, and I would absolutely buy another one.