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Old 01-25-2013, 10:44 PM   #1
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Big tt 1/2 ton tv?

New here, lots of good info already. I have read other threads about this same question, but I have to do it again.
I have a 12 Chevy crew cab 1500, 3.42, 4x4, 9500 tow capacity. I just got the truck on labor day with intentions of getting a hybrid or lightweight 28 foot tt. The more shopping I have done, the less impressed I am with either of those.
My neighbor is a salesman at the local rv dealer. He is now trying to turn me onto a jayco eagle 314bds, which has dry weight of roughly 8000lbs. It seems a little heavy to me but we are not cross country travelers. Most of our trips will be less than 2-3 hrs, and there are no mountains in Michigan.

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Old 01-25-2013, 11:52 PM   #2
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314bds seems a little heavy for you 1500 to me too.

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Old 01-26-2013, 12:13 AM   #3
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That's the exact trailer I wanted but it was to heavy for my F150. My sales rep turned me onto the White hawk 28DSBH and looking at the floor plans I said no. Well when I saw the trailer, it has almost everything I wanted. I really wanted the separate bunk room, but I have double bunks and it's within my weight limits. Now the wait till march/April.

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Old 01-26-2013, 08:02 AM   #4
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By the time you are loaded, you will likely exceed all of the capacities of the 1500. You need to ignore that salesman and look at some numbers.
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Old 01-26-2013, 08:09 AM   #5
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We started RV camping with a TT that had a similar dry weight and we pulled it with a Toyta Tundra 4x4. Believe me it was not safe. Our first investment was a Dodge Ram 2500 with a diesel. That was overkill, but what a difference in comfort and safety. It also allowed us to move up to a larger TT when we were ready. I would definately look for something lighter.
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Old 01-26-2013, 08:26 AM   #6
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Big tt 1/2 ton tv?

You need a 3/4 ton truck to pull a trailer of that size.
You may be able to tow it with a half ton but can you stop it or control it when the time arrives?
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Welcome to JOF Merrillroofing! I'm not the tow expert here, but on our experience can tell you that with your three kids, two adults, along with the ultimate hitch weight once you add 'stuff' to your front tt storage/bedroom cabinets, you might be maxed out on tv payload capacity and have no room to put toys/stuff/firewood/etc in the bed of your truck with that Eagle. The tongue weight on your tt will be higher than the brochure... ours is running much higher than "dry weight" at 1025lbs currently. By the time you load your tt (clothes, dishes, food, stuff), it will be over the max for your tv. Don't forget the cgvwr for tt/tw combined. Unfortunately, you won't have the opportunity to load everything up and weigh at a CAT scale before the purchase, so glad you are seeking advice from others online. Rv.net is another forum option to ask questions about towing/weights/etc.

The guy may be a nice neighbor, but if he is a salesman trying to sell you something not safe for your family, you may be making his next house payment(s) at your family's well-being (or others on the highway for that matter).

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Old 01-26-2013, 10:54 AM   #8
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Originally Posted by lx22f/c View Post
You need a 3/4 ton truck to pull a trailer of that size.
You may be able to tow it with a half ton but can you stop it or control it when the time arrives?
Could not have said it better...its not just towing but controlling and stopping. Not to mention the wear and tear on the 1/2 ton.
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Welcome to JOF

I tend to agree with the other replies that your GM 1500 pickup isn't a good match for the heavy Eagle 314BDS for a number of reasons:

* Your TV's "actual" Tow Rating is lower then it's published Tow Rating of 9,500lbs, because the combined weights of the TV's passengers, cargo, etc., have yet to be subtracted: https://www.jaycoowners.com/showthrea...uot-Tow-Rating

* I assume the 8,000lbs dry weight you mentioned is actually closer to the factory Ship Weight (yellow sticker on TT), because the published UVW is 7,465lbs. The TT's GVWR is 9,975lbs, so IMO a conservative family loaded 'ready-to-camp' weight of 9,000lbs is very realistic for the 314BDS (fluids not included).

* Your TV's specified Payload Capacity must be able to handle the combined weights of the TV's passengers, cargo, and the "loaded" tongue weight of the TT. In most cases half ton pickups lack enough Payload Capacity to handle the heavier loaded tongue weights. For example: With the 33 foot long 314BDS TT a 13% to 15% loaded tongue weight (of the TT's loaded weight) would be desirable..., that's a 1,170lb to 1,350lb loaded tongue weight on a 9,000lb loaded TT weight.

* An over rated WDH doesn't compensate for any overweight condition.

Doesn't matter if one is traveling 50 miles or cross country, over weight is over weight and the compromises (safety, etc.) associated to this fact remain the same.


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Welcome to the group..
As Healhi said you need to not only look at the weight of the RV but what you put in it and what you put in the truck... When they publish towing stats they assume a 150 lb driver with no passengers or gear.. so add in the weight of all the passengers and their gear in the truck and your difference in weight if your over 150..
RV sales men will tell you that your mini cooper will tow an Alpha See Ya 5er with no problem as they just want to make a sale...

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