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Old 06-21-2016, 03:19 PM   #1
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Exclamation Can I tow a Jayco Jay Feather Select 23k with a 2013 Acadia Denali?

Okay I need help here and asap. We are scheduled to pick up a 2011 Jayco Jay Feather Select 23k this weekend and although I thought I had researched enough about the towing requirements, now I'm freaking out because I'm afraid we might be cutting it too close, or even over. Below are the specs for each - can someone please help me figure this all out!? Can we safely tow this with our Acadia

GMC Acadia with factory installed towing package
GCVR = 10,450
GVWR = 6,100-6,459 (sticker says 6,249, online it says 6,100)
GAWR FRT= 3,196 lbs.
GAWR RR = 3527 lbs.
Tow Capacity 5,200 lbs.

Jayco Jay Feather Select 23k
UVW = 4,445 lbs.
Hitch weight: 545 lbs.
GVW = 5,900

We did get a sway bar that will be attached as well. Can anyone tell me if we can actually tow this safely with our vehicle? We will have 4-5 passengers totaling around 400-450 lbs. No idea what our gear will weigh. We don't plan on going anywhere we can't hook up as we have babies so not carrying anything or very little in tanks.

We are new to this all so any help would be greatly appreciated! We didn't want to have to trade vehicles so I tried to find a light weight travel trailer that we could tow with the Acadia that had 3 bunks (3 kids) a kitchen and a bathroom with no pop outs or slide outs and an actual bed for us parents (not a couch that folds down).

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Old 06-21-2016, 04:00 PM   #2
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I would check your cargo capacity, which may be on a yellow sicker on your drivers door post. Towing capacity is half the issue. Your cargo capacity would include tongue weight, cargo, people, and fuel. Without knowing what yours is, that would the next thing to check. Your trailer tongue weight will typically be higher than listed once your TT is loaded, propane etc added. Than to be sure you can go to a scale and weigh your set up to see exactly where your at.

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Cargo Capacity

I believe it's 1,335 lbs according to the sticker on the Acadia. Does this help? Sorry I can't seem to figure out what I need to add, subtract, multiply or divide to see if this is actually doable before we buy the TT!
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Old 06-21-2016, 04:43 PM   #4
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Assume 1334 lbs, deduct your hitch weight with hitch, probably 600 to 650 once your TT is loaded. Also deduct everything inside vehicle. Passengers 400 - 450, fuel, about 140 lbs, everything else inside the vehicle.

Appears your very close to your max...I'm sure it will pull it down the road, but stopping etc could get hairy. Make sure your trailer brakes are good, with a good controller. I would go to a cat scale with the trailer and check out just where your at. There are threads on here regarding cat scales and how to weight your set up.

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You are very tight on tolerances. With the trailer loaded, you will probably be pushing about 600+ lbs in tongue weight. Add 450 lbs of passengers, plus fuel and gear in the SUV and you are quite possibly over the CCC of the Acadia. It will be a fine balancing act for certain!


Also, from a dynamics point of view, I personally wouldn't want to be that close to the limit. I tow the Feather Select X19H with the Traverse (sister vehicle, same drivetrain) and it is comfortable, but heavy. I do scrub a bit of speed on long uphill grades for sure. Our trailer is 800 lbs (dry) to 1000 lbs (max) lighter than yours, and I don't generally have extra passengers these days, just DW and I. I think you might find that to be a whole lot of trailer for the Acadia.


Also keep in mind that those babies will grow a lot quicker than you expect and add weight to the setup each year. With 2 in college, I can attest that mine eat their weight in groceries each week, and heavy up my load considerably when they decide to join the parents for a camping weekend.


Not to necessarily say don't do it, but be careful! And expect that you will probably be looking for a different tow vehicle soon enough. Personally I seem to be on a treadmill of bigger trailer, bigger tow vehicle, bigger trailer... The good news for me is I've now gotten it straightened out and buy the bigger tow vehicle before I get the bigger trailer.
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With the numbers you've provided I think you'd be overloaded (both payload and towing). If you take a second vehicle and load the cargo (and people) there it'd make for a better (safer) experience.
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Thank you for the advice! It does seem tight and closer than we want to be. The sellers have been pulling it with a GMC Envoy for the past 5 years without issue and that is roughly the same specs as the Acadia. So that's why I'm so torn. They have a good weight distribution hitch and sway bar we will get in the purchase (were outfitted by an RV dealer to get everything right) and we are getting a good electric brake controller installed at a GMC dealer this week. We definitely need to weigh it all though. I'm on the fence whether we go through with the purchase or scrap it and try to find something else. It took us a month to find this one though with the floor plan we want - has 3 bunks (we could get by with two), no slide outs, a bath with a tub, A queen bed that doesn't have to fold, electric awning and ample storage. All for well under value. We will definitely be upgrading to a larger vehicle in the next few years - we JUST got the Acadia last year though...before we knew there would be a baby #3 so don't really want to go through the hassle of trading it in so soon. Plus it is great for every other need we have and camping is a handful of weekends 5 months out of the year (MN).

Any other suggestions on a different TT I should look for instead that has the above floor plan and features? Oh and we need to stick around $10-$12k which is what we are getting this 2011 for...
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The only floorplan I can see that is close to that one is the x213, It has the bunks and a king bed, rather than the queen. It saves you some weight too, but the king bed is on a slide. Have you considered any hybrids? None have bunks but they will save you lots of weight. The X18D has 3 pop-outs to fit your family. Anyway, good luck with your search!
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Thank you! We did look at the x213 and didn't love the slide out. Sounds like we may have to make some sacrifices though. Also looked at hybrids/pop ups and with such little ones really need something we can set up and take down fairly quickly. Also we have both had some bad experiences with pop ups (brother rolling out and mold issues) and with young my kiddos who suffer from restricted airways and asthma just don't feel they would be the right fit. I think I did see another non slide out Jayco that is under 4,000 lbs but we were looking to buy used not new and I'm not finding it used anywhere...
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Thank you! We did look at the x213 and didn't love the slide out. Sounds like we may have to make some sacrifices though. Also looked at hybrids/pop ups and with such little ones really need something we can set up and take down fairly quickly. Also we have both had some bad experiences with pop ups (brother rolling out and mold issues) and with young my kiddos who suffer from restricted airways and asthma just don't feel they would be the right fit. I think I did see another non slide out Jayco that is under 4,000 lbs but we were looking to buy used not new and I'm not finding it used anywhere...
You might want to try RVtrader.com or RVT.com to see what's available in used TTs.
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