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Old 10-17-2015, 11:09 PM   #11
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Food for thought... the F-150 is at the absolute maximum with that 1800lbs payload rating. The axles are maxed out, the suspension is maxed out, the brakes are maxed out, the tires are maxed out. It can do it... but it is going to have a lower duty cycle because it is at the upper end of its engineered ratings.

The F250 numbers are artificial, because the F250 is limited to a total 10K lbs GVWR. The axles can support more weight, the suspension can support more weight, the brakes can support more weight, the tires can support more weight. The F250 has a MUCH higher duty cycle because it is well below the engineered ratings.

If looking NEW, why not take a glance at the F350? The ride will be the same as the F250, the cost will only be slightly higher and you will have another 1500+/- lbs of payload over the F250, because it isn't limited to a 10K lbs GVWR.
Good points, appreciate all the feedback. Curious, why is it that the 250(0) is limited to 10K LBS while the 350(0) isn't? I guess I don't follow the benefit, I know it may push it to a different truck class as far as the highway departments are concerned, but are there really drivers licensure differences or registration differences required in some states between a 3/4 and 1 ton pickup? It seems to me if the 250(0) is actually capable of higher payloads then the ratings should be revised to reflect that, and if the builds are really nearly identical in axels, brakes, transmissions, etc, maybe there isn't much benefit to having the 2 classes?
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Old 10-17-2015, 11:48 PM   #12
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Yes there are differences in registering a 3/4 vs. 1 ton in some states. Can amount to hundreds of dollars.
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Old 10-18-2015, 07:37 AM   #13
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Yes diesel is heavy:

My truck:
15 Silverado 2500,crew cab standard box with the 6.0 gas motor
Cargo carrying capacity on the door sticker reads 2900 lbs

My cousins:
15 Silverado 2500,crew cab standard box with the 6.6 diesel motor
Cargo carrying capacity on the door sticker reads 2300 lbs

600 pound difference

Now

My Gvwr 9500 lbs
His Gvwr 10000 lbs

600+500=empty the diesel option weighs 1100 pounds more.
I forgot about the gvwr being higher!

The difference I mentioned was also the door jamb yellow sticker payload capacity.
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Old 10-18-2015, 08:21 AM   #14
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I forgot about the gvwr being higher!

The difference I mentioned was also the door jamb yellow sticker payload capacity.
That's were the numbers for both truck came from.Just couldn't remmber the exact numbers off the top of my head.One was something like 2964 the other was around 2342.
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Ummm...for a fact, if you get a 2016 F150, with the "Heavy Duty Payload" option, you can have a payload capacity of 3,240 !!! (2016 Ford F-150 Full Size Pickup Truck | Payload Specifications | Ford.com)

Surely, there must be similar options/packages for the 250 class!
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The 10000lb gvwr is only a sticker for the f250-f350. In some states anything with a gvwr of 10001+ lbs require different registration and insurance, im told. A superduty without the 10000lb gvwr package is 12500lb i believe.
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Old 10-18-2015, 08:38 PM   #17
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The 10000lb gvwr is only a sticker for the f250-f350. In some states anything with a gvwr of 10001+ lbs require different registration and insurance, im told. A superduty without the 10000lb gvwr package is 12500lb i believe.
You hit that nail right on the head.
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Researched and looked everywhere and despite being in the brochures for the purposes of advertising the highest payload in class, the 2016 F150 cannot be ordered with the heavy duty payload package. You can research it on the Ford Forums and I tried to price one out at 3 different dealerships here with no luck. Perhaps for 2017. The HD payload package pushes payload up over 3000 lbs which is pretty impressive for a half-ton.


I have also read up on the debates between the F350 and F250 (Can't comment on Chevy and Dodge) and there is a HD payload or camper package that brings the F250 capacity up to the equivalent payload rating on the F350 SRW. The F350 DRW significantly bumps up the payload.


If someone knows differently, I would appreciate hearing as we are considering the new 2017 F250 or F350 when they become available.
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Yes there are differences in registering a 3/4 vs. 1 ton in some states. Can amount to hundreds of dollars.

I've known people to replace the badges on the F350 to a F250. See it alot.
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The 10000lb gvwr is only a sticker for the f250-f350. In some states anything with a gvwr of 10001+ lbs require different registration and insurance, im told. A superduty without the 10000lb gvwr package is 12500lb i believe.
When the dealer registered the truck with the Florida DOV (their registration paperwork) it went through as a commercial vehicle because of the GVWR. We had to go to the DOV and have them redo the registration as a truck with the commercial GVWR as a truck for "PERSONAL" use only, it was then registered as a normal F150. No special license plate or insurance required.

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