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Old 01-31-2013, 06:24 PM   #11
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Bob,
Thanks for the corrections to the acronyms. I nearly made the same changes prior to hitting the send button, but then changed my mind. Should have listened to that inner voice.
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Old 01-31-2013, 10:29 PM   #12
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I'll have to dig around for my '02' 2500HD's recent CAT weights and see how close they are to your '09' model. I weighed mined under the same conditions you described.
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Old 02-01-2013, 12:36 PM   #13
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David,

I thought it would be interesting to compare our two similar configured GM 2500HD's 6.0L with only the model year's being different..., my '02' EXT CAB/LS, yours '09' SLE. Here's my TV's CAT scale weight also with one passenger, WDH, and full tank of fuel. I highlited your weights in red:

GCWR - Spec 16,000 lbs (16,000)
GVW - Scale 6,300 lbs (6,460)
Difference 9,700 lbs (9,540)

GVWR - Spec 9200 lbs (9,200)
GVW - Scale 6,300 lbs (6,460)
Difference 2,900 (2,740)

GAWR(F) - Spec 4,800 lbs (4,200)
GAW(F) - Scale 3,560 lbs (3,640)
Difference 1,240 lbs (560)

GAWR(R) - Spec 6,084 lbs (6,084)
GAW(R) - Scale 2,740 lbs (2,820)
Difference 3,344 lbs (3,264)

I don't know if you have the Extended Cab body style as I do.., but it's interesting that my '02' GAWR(F) is 4,800 lbs to your '09' GAWR(F) of 4,200 lbs., but of course the GAWR(R) is the more important weight limit.

Like yourself, my TV CAT weights don't include my cargo (genny, bicycle, misc.), so in my case I would add another 200 lbs for camping cargo.

Even though I have another 3,344lbs before reaching my GAWR(R), I realistically only have 2,900 lbs available (less cargo) because my GVWR trumps my GAWR(R).

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Hi Bob,
Yes I have the extended cab, and it's a 4x4 drivetrain, with 6 speed transmission. Thanks for sharing your data. It's interesting to see the differences. As you know, mid-year in 2007 there was a re-design done, and I suspect that brought with it a small increase in the chassis weight. I suspect the 6 speed transmission would add some weight also. Of course this added weight cuts into the towing capacities.

I don't know why my GAWR(F) is 600 lbs less than yours. That has me wondering if I read it wrong off the door label. My poor eyes may need a magnifying glass! My front suspension is a torsion bar suspension, not a coil spring. Other than that, maybe yours has the snowplow-ready suspension on the front? In the daylight, I will have another look at my label.
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Dave,

Yeah, I doubled checked my door-jam weight sticker twice to make sure I was seeing them correctly as well

Snow plow ready, good question. I do have what GM in '02' referred to as "Snow Plow Prep Package" that included a 130amp alternator and tranny oil cooler..., but didn't see anything about a GAWR(F) increase

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I put my glasses on this time, and my GAWR(F) is for sure 4200 lbs as I posted earlier.

Bob, I would say yours is higher because of the "Snow Plow Prep Package" you have. Hang a blade on it, and you have a new winter pass-time!
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This reminds me,
A couple decades ago, I visited the Keweenaw Peninsula a few times, both in winter and summer. That would be Houghton MI all the way to Copper Harbor MI. They told me they got snowfall so frequently, that snow blowers were for retired people. Any one who worked a regular job had a blade on the front of their truck to keep up to it. I truly admired the resilience of the people who lived there all year long!
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Old 02-03-2013, 04:49 PM   #18
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snip....... They told me they got snowfall so frequently, that snow blowers were for retired people. Any one who worked a regular job had a blade on the front of their truck to keep up to it.....snip
... and not to much has changed

I went to college in Houghton (MTU) many moons ago and I can attest to the winter snowfalls! Been back a few times since then with the most recent trip during the summer of 2010, the area still remains a great place to visit/camped.

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