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Old 03-16-2015, 05:30 PM   #11
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Get a bike rack and mount it on the back of the TT, that should move a little weight for you. Put all your heavier items in the rear storage and lighter things in the front storage, if available.

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Old 03-16-2015, 05:48 PM   #12
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Always heard that putting a bike rack on the back of Whitehawks (and other Jayco's too) was a no-no. May void the warranty - even after adding additional bracing to the bumper support.
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Old 03-16-2015, 06:00 PM   #13
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As mentioned, your TT tongue weight is 760#. This should be addressed by the remaining cargo capacity of your truck.

your 6420# GVW should be subtracted from the curb (unloaded) weight of your truck. that is your current cargo load.

Add 760# to that number and compare to your truck's cargo capacity. This is where you might be in trouble.
half-ton trucks - especially extended or crew cabs - will exceed cargo capacity before they exceed tow rating.

let us know, inquiring minds are waiting.

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Old 03-16-2015, 09:14 PM   #14
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As you can see in my signature I have a 27DSRL. The water tank is behind the rear axles. So a full tank will take a lot of weight off the tongue.

My total trailer weight is 6800lbs with between 900 and 1000 on the tongue, depending on how I load.

I have a WDH and a single sway control.

I have a bike rack which hangs from the real ladder which will hold two bikes.
I have only one on it and it works quite well.
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Old 03-17-2015, 12:39 AM   #15
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My total trailer weight is 6800lbs with between 900 and 1000 on the tongue, depending on how I load....snippage occurred....
That pretty much matches my recorded weights of 6000 on the trailer axles and 760 on the tongue for a total of 6760 pounds. Unfortunately, the way I figure it (and I could be mistaken) since the tongue weight is added to your TV payload weight I end up overweight by almost 200 pounds and given that the fresh water tank is behind the trailer axles as the water weight goes down the tongue weight will go up thus making the situation worse. UNLESS the black and gray tanks are even further aft of the axles behind the fresh water tank in which case the tongue weight could be reduced through usage moving the water from 1 tank to the next. Did that make sense? Gaining weight on the TV is bad and losing weight on the tongue is bad. I seem to be between a rock and a hard place.
Nighthawk have you done the CAT scale thing? If so how close are your numbers?
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Always heard that putting a bike rack on the back of Whitehawks (and other Jayco's too) was a no-no. May void the warranty - even after adding additional bracing to the bumper support.
Could very well be but then why do they put a hitch receiver back there? Anybody have an official statement from Jayco one way or the other?
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Could very well be but then why do they put a hitch receiver back there? Anybody have an official statement from Jayco one way or the other?
Russ, bumper mount may be a no no, but a hitch is mounted to the trailer frame. Much stronger than the bumper tube tack welded to frame. And bumper tube is probably 1/16" wall or less. It is not a load supporting bumper.
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Old 03-17-2015, 10:41 AM   #18
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I had a fiberglass topper on my truck, but the scales said it put me over weight. I removed the shell and sold it, now I have a canvas tonneau cover. It covers the bed for storing gear while camping, just not as much as the shell. Not as secure, but it keeps things dry. Once the budget allows, a 2500 is in my future.
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I can't look now because my camper is in off site storage but I don't remember seeing a hitch receiver back there. Can you post a picture?
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I've been wanting to run my rig over the scales and finally got around to doing it today. It was an eye opening and somewhat sobering experience.

My TV is a fully optioned 2012 Silverado 1500 4x4 Extended Cab 5.3 liter automatic with the HD tow package rated to tow up to 9600 pounds. Truck was weighed w/full tank of gas, 2 adults, 2 dogs (1 big 1 very small) fiberglass shell, bed liner and a bicycle in the back and came to 6420 pounds.
My TT is a 2014 27 DSRL. I weighed the TT with a full tank of water on board and all our camping gear/groceries/drinks. Trailer weight was right at 6760 pounds. GM says the GCVW should be no more than 15,000 pounds so I am good at 13,180.
Truck weight with trailer attached, no WD hitch 7180 for a tongue weight of 760. So far so good.
Truck weight with weight distribution goes down to 7060 (trailer weight goes up to 6120) for a tongue weight of 640 which means the tongue weight is light, not even 11% of the trailers weight. Not so good.
Now the bad part: the tag on the inside of the drivers door puts the GVWR at 7000 pounds which means I am over weight by 60 pounds. What really blows is that the tongue weight is already light; if I change the adjustment of the hitch to take more weight off the truck the reduction pushes me under the 10-15% tongue weight to trailer weight ratio recommended by GM.
For what it's worth the truck tows the trailer just fine the way it is set up now so I guess I don't have much in the way of options other than to not carry a full tank of water thus lightening the tongue weight slightly and live with the max GVW condition while keeping a sharp eye on maintenance items. Any thoughts, ideas or suggestions that do not involve buying a bigger truck would be appreciated. Thanks
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The GVWR of your Jayco is 7500#. At your loaded weight of 6760#, you could transfer 200 to 250# of weight from your truck to your trailer. (I travel with 2 bikes inside the trailer. And I only travel with about a 1/3 tank of fresh water.)

By moving weight, you won't exceed GVWR of your truck, still be under the GVWR of the trailer and your GCWR won't change.

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