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Old 07-26-2019, 06:34 AM   #1
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Chevy 1500 diesel

Something to ponder.

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Ford had an f150 with a diesel but the payload is pathetic. I would think the Chevy would be even lower since it is still steel not aluminum
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Still restricted to a P265 standard passenger tire.

Hopefully is will last longer with a diesel.
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Don't know all the specs but I thought the HWY MPG 2WD was pretty impressive.
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Old 07-26-2019, 09:34 AM   #5
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and then there is the Tesla Pickup to add to the mix.....


https://insideevs.com/news/357668/te...ore-buzz-f150/
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and then there's Ford's electric pickup...

The Ford F-150, America's best-selling pickup, is going electric

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2019/.../ford-f...pickup.../1794180001/
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Seems to me they made this for the gas mileage and wouldn't expect much else out of it. Intriguing though!
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Seems to me they made this for the gas mileage and wouldn't expect much else out of it. Intriguing though!
Although after reading the article it states towing 9300lbs?
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Ford had an f150 with a diesel but the payload is pathetic. I would think the Chevy would be even lower since it is still steel not aluminum
A few years ago when they put a diesel in the Titan the payload was also pathetic. Something like 900#. Sort of kills the purpose behind it, although as said this is probably for mileage.
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It will have it's place somewhere in the towing world.

For reference I have a 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee 3.0 V6 4X4 EcoDiesel.

I tow a 2016 JayFeather 23RLSW. It's rated to tow 7200 lbs. No way would I ever tow that amount.

The TT weighs about 5450 lbs. loaded for towing measured at a scale. That's a little less than 80% of the 7200 lb. limit.

It tows very well with the WDH. I am within 80lbs. of the RAWR so anything bigger or more stuff in the back would exceed the limit.

It's a great vehicle for my needs and I was very careful when buying a TT to keep the towing combo safe and within specs.

It gets 30 MPG on the highway and for my 15,000 plus miles towing across country and out west it's averaged close to 13MPG.

The Silverado should be a good all around vehicle plus great fuel mileage when used within it's limits and capabilities. It won't be for everyone for sure.
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I read it will have somewhere around 1800 lbs cargo capacity. But I guess it will vary depending on door choice and 2wd vs 4 wd
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The Chev looks worth checking out in the 2wd model for a solid tv for our 23'rlsw that we now pull nicely with a 2wd 2014 Silverado. My friend has a Dodge half ton and small diesel that pulls his23' nicely too.
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While the 1500 diesel looks interesting, one can buy a 2500 gasser that outperforms it in every area, and I would be willing to bet, at a significantly lower initial price, and probably at a substantially lower overall lifetime operating cost as well.
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While the 1500 diesel looks interesting, one can buy a 2500 gasser that outperforms it in every area, and I would be willing to bet, at a significantly lower initial price, and probably at a substantially lower overall lifetime operating cost as well.
Not sure about every way.

Overall fuel mileage a plus for the diesel.

Pulling power at higher elevations and mountain driving with the turbo diesel a plus.

Engine braking for towing a plus for the diesel.

Initial and operating costs higher for the diesel for sure.

All 3 U.S. manufacturers have a diesel in the 1/2 ton line so they must see a market for it. A lot of money in R&D if it doesn't fly.

It will have a purpose for some people, just another option to consider.
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The fuel mileage may not be as pleasing as it sounds. How short folk's memories are. Several years ago, fuel spiked to where diesel was kissing the $5 mark. I could get E85 fuel for at least half that price. At the time, my 1500 Silverado would average about 14 mpg on E85, and at about $2.30 that E85 was going for, that equates to 16.5 cents a mile. At the time, diesel was roughly $4.80 in my area. At that price, to break even on the same cost per mile, a diesel would have to average, for all miles, 30 mpg. That is just break even. These diesel 1/2 tons do not average, for all miles... city, highway, hauling, towing.... 30 mpg.

Even today, I get E85 for at least a buck lower than diesel is going for. The numbers play out very similarly. So even disregarding the higher initial cost of buying the diesel, on a fuel cost per mile basis there really is no appreciable advantage to getting the diesel.

Yes, at higher elevations there can be an advantage. But most of the county is not high elevation. Each person has to decide for themselves in that regard.

And of course the OEM's see a market. There is some sort of mystic that I do not understand that surrounds diesel. Folks will buy a diesel for a status symbol if nothing else. Almost a high school mentality of "if it aint diesel, it aint a real truck". I go thru about 21,000 gallons of diesel a year in my commercial stuff. I have never been afflicted with the diesel mystic. I know all the pros and cons having worked with diesels since the 1960's. The emissions stuff that started showing up in 2003 and has progressed to what it is today has killed any love affair I might have had with diesel in the past. And that is why I have a 3/4 ton gasser.
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I don't see the point in these diesel half ton pickups. I speak from a Ford perspective because that is what I know best - the EcoBoost option outperforms the diesel option in power and performance and towing. The diesel's only advantage is fuel mileage, but for the added cost of the diesel option and maintenance, it still doesn't make sense financially. If the option doesn't add benefit in performance or finances, then what's the point?
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Yeah, I was watching a video a couple of days ago where someone got a 2020 Chevy 2500HD with the new 6.6L L8T engine in it. 401 HP and 464 lb torque. It was comfortably pulling around 12K of trailer with a track loader up in the high country of Oregon.

The claim they made was that they go this 2500HD 6.6L, Z71, Crew Cab standard box for around $40K. I have yet to see a 1/2 ton diesel going for that low of a price.

For instance, NADA is showing the lowest average selling price of the 2019 Nissan XD diesel (basic trim) at around $47-$48K. The lowest average selling price of the simple LT version of the 2019 Chevy 1500 diesel is about $44K on up.
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