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Old 05-17-2014, 11:59 AM   #11
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Couldn't find if this has been discussed before so here goes. Recently stopped at a Pilot/Flying J in Indiana when I saw a price on the interstate sign. It was $3.96 but was the lowest of any stations I'd seen. Stopped, fueled up, and after a burger I was on my way home. Later when checking receipts in my pocket before pitching them, I noticed that on the Flying J receipt I was charged $4.189 per gallon not the price on the signage.

With a follow up call to the station and a complaint to their corp HQ I found out that for diesel they post the "non-taxable" price that is what commercial truckers pay. The AD [auto diesel] that consumers, including RV's, is much higher as it includes the taxes. In my case that was a plus 24 cents per gallon making it higher than any other station up and down the road. Did some investigation on-line and found that this was a common complaint. As a new diesel owner [2010 2500HD Silverado] I might be the last to find this out, the hard way.

Don't know if this is the practice at truck stops in other states, but in Indiana I was told all truck stops are required to post the non-tax price.
Many years ago I experienced the same thing (in Indiana IIRC), but I caught it at the register.

I told the clerk that I would only pay the price posted on the pump. We got into a heated exchange. I asked how much a gallon of milk was. He told me and I replied what prevents you from charging 50 cents more than the posted price for that milk. He said because that would be against the law. I then asked why he was doing the same thing with diesel fuel by charging me more than the posted price on the pump? "Because that is the way it works" he said. I put my money for the posted price on the counter and told him "here is what I am paying you and not a cent more". If you don't like it, call the police because what you are doing is deceptive and illegal. You can discount a posted price, but you cannot charge more.

In the end the guy gave up and I left feeling victorious.
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Old 05-17-2014, 12:22 PM   #12
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Most all your big name stations have the same layouts and put the diesel on the outside pumps. I've never had a problem pulling our old 33' bumper pull camper in and out of stations off the interstate, The ones I would stay out of are the ones that make you pull in then back out. Also the more that you travel and drive pulling a trailer the more comfortable you will be around gas stations. Just take your time and if you have to Waite on the little car getting gas at the diesel pump just relax no need to rush it and try to fit at a smaller pump. Also this is why it's important to take the time and learn how to back up your camper, you never know what's going to happen at a gas station, car in front of you won't start, beer semi blocks the exit ect. it's the small stations in town that can be tricky to get in and out with a trailer.
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Old 05-17-2014, 03:17 PM   #13
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Most all your big name stations have the same layouts and put the diesel on the outside pumps. The ones I would stay out of are the ones that make you pull in then back out. Just take your time and if you have to Waite on the little car getting gas at the diesel pump just relax no need to rush it and try to fit at a smaller pump. Also this is why it's important to take the time and learn how to back up your camper, you never know what's going to happen at a gas station, car in front of you won't start, beer semi blocks the exit ect. it's the small stations in town that can be tricky to get in and out with a trailer.

This is my point exactly. You pull in and all the cars go to the outside pumps so you wait for them blocking traffic while you wait. I prefer the big stations with dedicated truck/rv lanes. I see a Flying J or Pilot I know they have diesel and I can get in and out.

I have pulled off the interstate more than once to find I couldn't get in or out easily, just much easier to me to go to a place designed for trucks/RV's instead of cars.
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Many years ago I experienced the same thing (in Indiana IIRC), but I caught it at the register.

I told the clerk that I would only pay the price posted on the pump. We got into a heated exchange. I asked how much a gallon of milk was. He told me and I replied what prevents you from charging 50 cents more than the posted price for that milk. He said because that would be against the law. I then asked why he was doing the same thing with diesel fuel by charging me more than the posted price on the pump? "Because that is the way it works" he said. I put my money for the posted price on the counter and told him "here is what I am paying you and not a cent more". If you don't like it, call the police because what you are doing is deceptive and illegal. You can discount a posted price, but you cannot charge more.

In the end the guy gave up and I left feeling victorious.
Here's a hi five from me. I didn' notice until the day after i got home. Told the corp service rep who called me, that his stops have sold me their last burger, subway sandwich, Arby's or whatever they have inside. I'm taking my business and all my RV friends elsewhere. I urge all on here to move on. I understand the access thing, and some stations are too tight. I pick exits that have 2 or more stations posted so I can pick the one that is most open.

Your response to them at the cashier is priceless. Never thought of that approach but have used it in regular stores. Groceries are the worst at posting a price on the shelf and charging you something else at checkout. Love it when they have to hold up a long line to get someone to go back and check the merchandise lane for the posted price. Most of the time they will just take your word and do a price override. At the truck stops they know exactly what they are doing and simply hope most people won't notice. I didn't, but they got me for the last time.
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Old 05-17-2014, 05:31 PM   #15
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well I live in Indiana and know the truckstop your talking about but the non taxed price flashing is cash or credit and unless you are a tax exempt otr driver you don't get that option it would be nice though if they would also add what we the regular guys would have to pay before we pull in and have a heart attack lol
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well I live in Indiana and know the truckstop your talking about but the non taxed price flashing is cash or credit and unless you are a tax exempt otr driver you don't get that option it would be nice though if they would also add what we the regular guys would have to pay before we pull in and have a heart attack lol
Cash or Credit maybe but like you said its not the price you'll pay. Stop at a previous exit or down the road at a non truck stop and the auto diesel was with in a nickle of the flashing price at the Flying J. No way they can justify the $4.189 I paid last week.

I say boycott the truck stops.
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well i know and usually i do shop price but i also look for a place i can get in and out of with my trailer whether it be my car hauler or my tt either one poses predicaments in a lot of cases ... sometimes worth my piece of mind to just pay the piper
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ps and if i am going to ky to drop off a car i try to make it over the line the diesel is cheaper in ky go figure
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well i know and usually i do shop price but i also look for a place i can get in and out of with my trailer whether it be my car hauler or my tt either one poses predicaments in a lot of cases ... sometimes worth my piece of mind to just pay the piper
That be me. I don't want the aggravation of driving around to save pennies on the gallon. Get in where it is easy and move on. If I have to stew about a few extra bucks while towing I probably should not be doing this. Now if we were talking about hundreds of dollars but for pocket lint...forgetaboutit...YMMV
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I use a couple apps on my phone. The favorite is gas buddy. It is my go to fuel app. It is a user driven fuel price database. People record actual prices at fill-up. I am really enjoying the AAA Trip Planner app when traveling. I think it lists fuel prices for select stations that report to AAA. The other advantage is the AAA app does route planning and also includes other things like campground, restaurants, etc.
Gas Buddy also has a trip cost calculator option at their website that does a good job of planning your trip to hit the lowest gas prices based on teh mpg of your vehicle.

Flying J has a Trip planner at their website as well.
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