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Old 04-13-2016, 11:05 AM   #1
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Did all my measuring.........

Ok did all measurements and here where I am at......thoughts?

2001 Toyota Tundra

(forgive me that I am not a math person and do not know how to read a tape measure ha ha ha)

Front wheel wells unhitched 34"+ 6 lines and 34 1/4"
Front wheels hitched no WDH 34 3/4"+1 line and 35"
Front wheels with WDH 34"+3lines and 33 3/4"+ 1 line

Rear unhitched only measured 1 tire 36 1/2"
Rear hitched no WDH measured both 33 3/4"+ 2 lines and 34"+ 2 lines
Rear with WDH 35 1/2"+ 2 lines and 35 1/4"

Does this look about right? My spring bars are hooked up with only 1 chain hanging free and 8 links under tension.

Height of the top of coupler with trailer level is between 18"- 18 1/2"
top of ball is 19 1/2"

All looks level
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Old 04-13-2016, 01:38 PM   #2
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Based in your front wheel well measurements, it looks like you are actually transfering more weight back to the front axle with the wd bars latched up be no trailer hooked up. Generally the front wheel well measurement should not be less with the trailer hooked up with the wdh vs the truck only.

It could be the way the truck suspension "settled". A trip to the CAT Scales will tell you for sure.
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Old 04-13-2016, 02:35 PM   #3
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X2, you may have actually put more weight than stock on your front wheels. It certainly looks good.
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Old 04-13-2016, 04:00 PM   #4
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X2, you may have actually put more weight than stock on your front wheels. It certainly looks good.
So what do I do now?
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Old 04-13-2016, 04:01 PM   #5
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Based in your front wheel well measurements, it looks like you are actually transfering more weight back to the front axle with the wd bars latched up be no trailer hooked up. Generally the front wheel well measurement should not be less with the trailer hooked up with the wdh vs the truck only.

It could be the way the truck suspension "settled". A trip to the CAT Scales will tell you for sure.
So what do I do now? Is this a bad thing?
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Old 04-13-2016, 05:15 PM   #6
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Try latching up the wd bars on the last chain link (the one hanging free) and see how the measurement is compared to the tv only measurement. You should remeasure the unhooked height also unless the truck and trailer are still sitting in the same spot as when you measured earlier.

If the front wheel well measurement is about the same, or slightly more than the unhooked measurement, then a re-adjustment of the wdh may be needed, or just "ran" on the last chain link.

With your ground clearance issue though I do see a new wdh system in your future.

As for being good or bad, it used to be that you wanted "equal drop" for both the front and rear fenders. Or slightly more in the rear than the front. About 10yrs ago (or so) both the auto and hitch manufactures started suggesting only restoring the lost weight back to the front axle. Meaning if the front axle "lost" 200lbs when the trailer was hooked up (but before latching up the wd bars), you want to "restore" the 200lbs. Reason from what I understand is having more weight on the front axle (with the trailer hooked up vs tv only) could cause an oversteer situation in an emergency maneuver. Meaning the tv ends up steering more than you wanted, which can cause a jack knife situation when towing. Having understeer is said to be a safer situation when an emergency situation may happen. Hopefully this makes sense! Lol
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Old 04-13-2016, 05:23 PM   #7
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Try latching up the wd bars on the last chain link (the one hanging free) and see how the measurement is compared to the tv only measurement. You should remeasure the unhooked height also unless the truck and trailer are still sitting in the same spot as when you measured earlier.

If the front wheel well measurement is about the same, or slightly more than the unhooked measurement, then a re-adjustment of the wdh may be needed, or just "ran" on the last chain link.

With your ground clearance issue though I do see a new wdh system in your future.
I called Reese tech support and basically all he did was send me an email with the proper installation instructions. Not very helpful seeing I do not know what I am doing to begin with. This is ridiculous. Can't I just keep it as is? What will it hurt? We are only talking 1/4 of an inch. Will adding or removing a washer in the hitch head make any difference? My ball is completely straight with barely a tilt at this moment. Look at this pic.
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Watch this video it may help answer a few questions you have.

https://youtu.be/mkewkvU8Ot8
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Old 04-13-2016, 06:39 PM   #9
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lukenick1, you are having quite the adventure with your hitch! I believe you are pretty close with your set up. Your rig looks pretty level in that pic.
I would try removing one washer which will decrease the angle/tilt a little more and put just little less weight to your front axles. One washer might just be the right adjustment for that 1/4" that your over. Don't get too worried about the angle/tilt of your hitch. The main purpose of changing the tilt is to fine tune your weight transfer. After you have removed the washer you may even find that you will use the third link (two links hanging free) to get the proper set up. Play around with having it on the second or third link and see what happens.
I know from your other thread that the main culprit for your troubles is the bottom mount coupler with the round bar wdh, but it will work and I think you almost got it.
Taking measurements tell you that you're close, but get to a scale and you will confirm that it's set up right.
Ps. If someone hasn't already mentioned it on your other thread, I think you need a 5/32" pin for the ones you lost on your latches.
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lukenick1, you are having quite the adventure with your hitch! I believe you are pretty close with your set up. Your rig looks pretty level in that pic.
I would try removing one washer which will decrease the angle/tilt a little more and put just little less weight to your front axles. One washer might just be the right adjustment for that 1/4" that your over. Don't get too worried about the angle/tilt of your hitch. The main purpose of changing the tilt is to fine tune your weight transfer. After you have removed the washer you may even find that you will use the third link (two links hanging free) to get the proper set up. Play around with having it on the second or third link and see what happens.
I know from your other thread that the main culprit for your troubles is the bottom mount coupler with the round bar wdh, but it will work and I think you almost got it.
Taking measurements tell you that you're close, but get to a scale and you will confirm that it's set up right.
Ps. If someone hasn't already mentioned it on your other thread, I think you need a 5/32" pin for the ones you lost on your latches.
I had the local RV service company order me the Reese replacement pin and it is 3/16" and I have been trying to stick 1/4" pins through it. No wonder they didn't fit. I hope it's finally the right one. We shall see when I get it. Keep fingers crossed!!!
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