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Old 04-16-2016, 07:01 PM   #21
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PS today's modern emissions systems on diesels make them cleaner than traditional gasoline engines
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Towing our Jayco, mpg is 13-14. Empty we got 21 mpg Delta Co to Denver and back. That's over Eisenhower Tunnel and Vail pass. Ours is a daily driver.
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Old 04-16-2016, 07:18 PM   #22
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Everyone's opinion here is absolutely correct. If your TV is also your daily driver with short trips to work, and you do not tow more than few hundred miles, it makes no sense buying the newer diesels. They are costly on the front end, and offer little benefit if you don't utilize a diesel for what it's intended. New diesels do not like to idle or be driven short distances. You WILL have major DPF, EGR issues if you drive them short distances.

Gas motors have gotten much more reliable and durable the last 10 years. In my case, my TV was bought to tow either our 37' TT or the dump trailer hauling loads of materials for the home stead. We tow long distances and at times sit in traffic in 90 plus degree weather with the AC cranked. So in this case if I still owned a gasser, it would be really hard on it to survive towing close to max heavy loads long distances with AC on in high ambient temps. Let alone the heavy right foot. You don't want to blow up a new gas motor. Even though they are much more reliable, they are much more expensive to replace than they used to be. I've owed gasser TVs but traded them out every few years but the depreciation is much steeper that diesels. The wife wanted the big- heavy TT, and carry all their stuff so had to go diesel. Also the market for used diesels is strong. My brother bought an F250 with 6.7, sold it 3 years later and was within 3k of what he paid for it with 30k miles.
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Old 04-16-2016, 08:56 PM   #23
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With that trailer you are not totally committed to a 3/4 ton, especially a diesel. The f150 ecoboost can handle that trailer especially the 2015 and up with the exceptional gvwr of the new aluminum body. It's worth a look as it will offer many benefits as a daily driver as well over a 3/4 ton.
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Old 04-16-2016, 09:48 PM   #24
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Diesel vs Gas

No gas motor will tow like a diesel. Tow a load with a diesel once and you'll be hooked. I can run 60mph up steep hills loaded with the camper and a golf cart and be under 2k rpm (and be gaining speed the whole way up). Cost to maintain over gas is minimal. If you can afford the little additional cost up front go for it..,,,
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Enjoy the posts. Diesel No Regrets!
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For me when going down a steep grade and the exhaust brake kicks in and I decelerate going down hill, re-affirms my diesel decision every time. When I am climbing the same steep grade and doing 65 mph under 2000 rpm also re-affirms my decision.

Yep they cost more.
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I sure can't wait till it says Deisel vs Gas vs Electric! Cause when they figure out batteries those electric vehicles are going to take over!!
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I sure can't wait till it says Deisel vs Gas vs Electric! Cause when they figure out batteries those electric vehicles are going to take over!!
That much torque demand for a long time, the batteries will not survive 2 miles.
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I totally agree commander that the batteries are not there yet but ten years ago I didn't think the tesla would do what it does now. The power it has, real power all the time, is unreal. One can dream.
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