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Old 05-31-2014, 06:25 AM   #21
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There was a article in Trailer Life years ago on this subject. What I remember from the article was the break Evan for the diesel did not happen tell you get to 130000 miles for the cost of the diesel and the higher cost of maintenance. That being said I would still like to own one to have the power to spare. And in the past once you up grade your truck and have the extra power and weigh capacity you will get the bug for a bigger better camper..
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Old 05-31-2014, 08:36 AM   #22
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Maintenance is certainly a factor, in terms of oil & fuel filter. Oil & filter every 5,000 miles (10 quarts oil) and fuel filter every other oil change for me. Oil and filter about $70 for synthetic and fuel filter is about $40. Brakes and tires, items I have replaced with my trucks, are comparable to gas trucks in the maintenance cycle.
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Old 05-31-2014, 08:47 AM   #23
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I go by the oil life monitor in my truck. Changing oil every 5000 miles is old school, and a waste of oil and money, especially if you are using synthetic oil. When I get to around 15% or so, I change mine. That's usually around 7500 miles or better. I do the same for the fuel filter. Use the monitors, that's what they are there for, and have been proven to be accurate. Just trying to save you some money, not trying to start a whole new discussion or argument in this thread.
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Old 05-31-2014, 10:29 PM   #24
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Do your home work before buying the ecoboost, there are problems with them. If you planning to replace your 5000 lb TT with a heavier rig and travel longer than few hundred miles each trip then I would consider a diesel. The Duramax or Cummins are great towing motors.
I own the new power stroke, I would stay away from that. Ford forgot how to build a tough truck.
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Old 05-31-2014, 10:49 PM   #25
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One important factor that has not been addressed is re-sale value. I'm on my 4th diesel, so I'm in the "I'll never go back to a gasser" category. I always buy used and trade in once I get close to 100,000 miles, traded in February from an 09 to a 12 with identical equipment Chevy Silverado LTZ 3500, in three years with the 09 I put about 55,000 miles on it and lost $4,000 between what I paid and what I got for it in February after 3 years. This was better than I have previously done on my other trades, but not that far off, diesels do not depreciate nearly as quickly as a gas trucks do.

I don't need a diesel, but sure do love it!

Empty around town 14 mpg, highway 19 mpg, towing my X23B 12-12.5

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I think I am in the same boat as you are. Looks like you pull the same camper I do x23b. Do you use truck for daily commute to work? Also do you tow anything heavier than the x23b?

That's how I would use the truck 98% unloaded and 2% for towing about 4 to 7 trips with the camper.
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I am not being ugly when I say this as the eco-boost is a good idea and they are good trucks. However it basically is a mini van motor with a turbo. The motor is so small that it has to work itself to death to do anything.
I would hardly call 420 ft/lbs of torque @ 2500 rpm working itself to death! The Eco is not your Mom's minivan motor.

...and it's got 2 turbos, by the way

For decent fuel economy unloaded and incredible towing performance its a formidable contender.
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I would hardly call 420 ft/lbs of torque @ 2500 rpm working itself to death! The Eco is not your Mom's minivan motor.



...and it's got 2 turbos, by the way



For decent fuel economy unloaded and incredible towing performance its a formidable contender.

Didn't mean to hit a nerve but when I said mini van motor it is about the same size. It is only 3.7 liter
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No harm no foul, parker. The 3.7 liter is the base model naturally aspirated engine and the Eco is 3.5 liter.
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No harm no foul, parker. The 3.7 liter is the base model naturally aspirated engine and the Eco is 3.5 liter.

It is small but it is good at what it was designed for. The 11,000 pound tow rating is not for a trailer like a camper. More like a hay trailer that supports itself and does not have much tongue weight. On campers and this is my opinion only when you get above about 8,000 pounds you will want a 3/4 ton truck.
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I think I am in the same boat as you are. Looks like you pull the same camper I do x23b. Do you use truck for daily commute to work? Also do you tow anything heavier than the x23b?

That's how I would use the truck 98% unloaded and 2% for towing about 4 to 7 trips with the camper.
Yes it is also my daily driver. I put maybe 12,000-14,000 miles a year on it, maybe 2,000-3,000 towing the 23B. The previous TT was much bigger, but I still didn't "need" the truck. don't currently tow anything else.
My history with the previously traded in Diesels, 3 in total, has been favorable. Once you get into a Diesel, it's hard to go back to a gas engine. Biggest challenge is the initial investment, everything else in my opinion is a wash.
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