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Old 05-25-2014, 11:00 PM   #1
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diesel vs gasser

What should my next truck be. I currently tow a x23b roughly 5000ib. Would like to go to Yellowstone maybe do a trip to Alaska. Don't know if I would ever update the current trailer to a fifth wheel. Which to go with desiel or gas. I know fords ecoboost has some good specs but what about getting down the mountain. Any thoughts. Did tow my camper once with my buddies desiel it kinda nice to tow a trailer and not feel it back there. Fyi sorry for spelling errors typing on a phone.
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Old 05-26-2014, 06:12 AM   #2
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Initial cost and maintenance are more expensive for a diesel. Fuel economy is generally better with a diesel. I would say that many people who tow with a diesel would say they would never go back to gas. But there are some great gas engines now as well.

For me, I fall into the never go back to gas category. I love the sound, power and economy of a diesel.
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I have the Ford Ecoboost, tows like a dream. Low end torque like a diesel without the additional expense of a diesel. I got 12mph on my last 3 hour towing trip pulling an x20e which is just a little smaller than your TT. Truck has a ton of get up and go, and hearing the turbos spinning up is pretty cool.

My only concern is coming down off a mountain. Brakes are good on the truck, however would be concerned without having the benefits of compression braking. Luckily for me not an issue here in Ohio.
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A lot depends on your "non-towing" use. If your daily commute and around town driving is typically only a few miles/minutes, it probably wouldn't be enough to warm a diesel up to proper operating temps. That could cause you some maintenance issues and (potentially) shorten the engine life. If, on the other hand, your daily commute is 20-30 minutes or more, a diesel might be a good choice for you. Also keep in mind that diesels are rarely available in a 150/1500 series truck. You generally have to move up to a 250/2500 series, which also beefs up the frame, tranny, suspension, etc. That may be why you didn't feel the trailer when you towed with your buddy's diesel P.U. If you never plan on "upgrading" to a 5th wheel or a trailer over, say, 8000 lbs., a heavy duty truck is overkill.

I have an F-150 Ecoboost, and I love it. If the legendary "turbo whine" exists, I don't even hear it. (And my hearing is pretty darn good.) The torque and compression are excellent, and the acceleration is flat out amazing! It pulls my Eagle with ease - both up & down hills. Though I've not yet pulled it through the mountains, a buddy's BIL reports passing diesels right & left while towing his through mountains. One thing, though, don't expect the 22/23 mpg Ford advertises. That's a 2x4/Standard Cab without the towing package. 4x4, Crew/Super Crew Cab, and Max Tow Package will add considerable weight to the truck. I get about 17.5 hwy./12.5 city/14-16 combined. Towing my Eagle drops it down to 7.5 - 8.5, but it's 30 feet long and weighs in at around 8K.

If it were me, I'd stick with the F-150 gasser. But that's JMHO . . . FWIW!
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Any newer gas truck is going to be light years ahead of your 05 truck at 5000lbs no need for a diesel truck
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Get the diesel. I love pulling to the mountains and not having to worry about the steepness going up or coming down. The Ecoboost is fine for your weight but remember it is basically a minivan motor with a turbo.
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My drive to work is 25 mins . Just bought my x23b last year. Love it so far that's why I don't know if I would upgrade to a bigger trailer or a 5er. Also right now I wouldn't want to tow anything bigger with the current truck. Just some thoughts. Thanks for the comments so far. Keep them coming.
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Your 5.4 should do well towing a 5000 lb trailer.. unless you want to go 90 mph.. why change if you dont have to?
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My 05 f150 is getting up there in miles. Just starting to do some research into what to get. The 5.4 pulls it but merging on to freeway pedal to the floor. I like the idea of going out west and maybe drive to Alaska would be some fun trips. I know I wouldn't want the current truck to tow up or down the mountains I know it can do it but I don't want to worry about it. The diesel I know does an excellent job on hold the trailer back on the way down with out using brakes. I know the ecoboost does a great job going up but don't know what it does on the way down.
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For Diesel's, I would agree that if most of your non-camping driving is to the store and back, then a Diesel isn't a good choice. Just another plug for the Diesel, I just took a trip to N.J. and averaged 23.5MPG (empty of course) and usually get 12-14 pulling the 5th.
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