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Old 07-26-2016, 03:08 PM   #1
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Do I believe the salesman?

Today I was told my 2014 Dodge RAM (per VIN):
Engine: 5.7L V8 HEMI
3.21 Rear Axle Ratio
Gross Vehicle Weight Rating Cap 6800 lbs
Gross Combined Wt Rating 13500 lbs
Dead Weight Hitch - Max Trailer Wt. 7850 lbs
Gross Axle Wt Rating - Front 3900 lbs
Gross Axle Wt Rating - Rear 3900 lbs
Curb Weight - Front 3180 lbs
Curb Weight - Rear 2295 lbs
Gross Vehicle Weight Rating Cap 6800 lbs
Gross Combined Wt Rating 13500 lbs
Dead Weight Hitch - Max Trailer Wt. 7850 lbs
Dead Weight Hitch - Max Tongue Wt. 785 lbs
Wt Distributing Hitch - Max Trailer Wt. 7850 lbs
Wt Distributing Hitch - Max Tongue Wt. 1177 lbs
Maximum Trailering Capacity 7850

would tow/handle this Fifth Wheel

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Old 07-26-2016, 03:23 PM   #2
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In a nut-shell, no. Good thing you asked.

The dry hitch weight would put you over the truck's GVW without any gear or occupants and the GCVWR would be almost maxed out at the dry weights before occupants or gear.

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Old 07-26-2016, 03:24 PM   #3
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Without doing much math it looks to me like you could easily exceed your payload with loaded hitch weight and your trailer tow rating, and...other ratings too!.
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Old 07-26-2016, 03:35 PM   #4
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You could absolutely do it, if you don't want your truck to last very long and be at or over the threshold of your trucks capability every time you hook up. I've always said just because you can, doesn't always mean you should. You'll have people all day long say how they towed some huge thing all over the world and never ever had a problem. Stories about their cousins, uncles, brother-in-law who towed a 5vr with a Yugo. I'd rather have plenty and be comfortable knowing I'm no where near mechanical failure as opposed to wondering if my rig is going to fail hours from home on a hill overlooking an active volcano.....
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Old 07-26-2016, 03:38 PM   #5
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Look in the drivers door jamb of your truck for a yellow payload sticker that states "All occupants and cargo not to exceed XXXXlbs".
What is the listed payload for your truck? Chances are it is no more than 1400lbs based in the numbers you posted. As posted above, the loaded pin weight will probably exceed your trucks payload, without the weight of 5ver hitch, passengers, or any additional cargo.

Ask the salesman to put it in writing that you will not exceed any of your trucks ratings.

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Old 07-26-2016, 03:45 PM   #6
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Even if you ignored the pin weight and payload, towing capacity vs GVWR of the trailer isn't even close.

Maximum Trailering Capacity 7850

Gross Weight of trailer 9950 lbs

I'm thinking the shipped weight (yellow sticker on the side of the trailer) is already at or above the max trailering capacity of your truck. Add "stuff", and you'll be way over your towing capacity.

Run away from this "salesman".
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Old 07-26-2016, 03:47 PM   #7
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I have almost the exact same truck I would not even attempt to pull that trailer with my truck.

I like my truck and that trailer would kill it.

Would it pull it yes it would but not well and most importantly for you and your family NOT SAFELY!
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Old 07-26-2016, 04:04 PM   #8
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Pulling it is one thing. Stopping it is another. Unless there is some data provided by the Engineering Dept of Chrysler Corp, you can't always tell what is the weak link in the TV setup. Is it the high axle ratio? The trans spec? The brakes? The tires? The chassis? The hitch? Likely, it's several of these, if not all of them. Dodge makes trucks to haul heavy loads. It appears this isn't one of them.
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Old 07-26-2016, 04:12 PM   #9
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Do I believe the salsemen?

NO. Without even reading this thread... NO WAY do you trust a salesman!

Salesmen and politicians... Don't believe a word. They both will say anything to sell you.
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Old 07-26-2016, 04:43 PM   #10
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Typical salesman trying to make sale. Watch you will go back and tell him the input you got from a forum his answer to it will be.....all you will need is a couple of air bags. Trying to convince you it will increase your payload. That's what happened to my neighbor when I told him that a half ton truck wouldn't work with the trailer he ordered, lucky he was in the market for a truck at the time and ended up with 3/4 ton . Don't fall for their tricks!

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