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Old 05-23-2012, 08:22 PM   #21
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I agree with nylyon. If that 2005 had the V10 or the 6.0, I'd make the change. Going from one 5.4 to another though, I don't think you'll notice enough of a difference, especially if your F150 is doing an admirable job right now.
Can you even get an F250 with the 5.4?
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Old 05-23-2012, 08:27 PM   #22
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New, no, but a 2005 as mentioned, yes.
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Old 05-24-2012, 09:36 AM   #23
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So with what everyone has said, a 2005 F250 with a 5.4 Liter V8 (there is actually a nice one at a lot in my area right now) might feel more 'firm/stable' since it's heavier duty than my 2005 F150, however, it goes without saying that I would probably actually struggle a little more in pulling since it's a heavier truck with the same engine that I currently have.

Is this fair to say?
With the same engine in the F250 vs the F150 I would assume you would feel a little bit better. While the hp/tq are probably the same, I would assume that the F250 has better gearing. This would make a difference in actually getting the power to the ground. Lets say the F150 has something like a 3.55 gearing, the F250 probably has something like a 4.11 rearend. (sorry, I'm a dodge guy, those may not be valid #'s for a ford but the point is still the same) This would mean that the 250 has a greater mechanical advantage with the pulling. And I would also assume that the F250 would have better cooling for all the fluids as well. This could make a huge difference if you were in a hot climate like AZ or TX. But at the same time, I don't know if it would be worth it. Is it the 2005 that went to the new 3valve engine or did they do that in 2006? That is supposed to be a superior engine over the "old" version of the 5.4l.
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Old 05-24-2012, 03:34 PM   #24
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I started with a 2011 f-150 w/ecoboost. Blew the main seal in the trans bringing my new starcraft 325rlsa (7200#) home. dealer said it was a faulty seal from factory never the less my confidance was shot. traded for 2012 powerstroke. night and day difference. instead of hoping what the truck can do i know what it can do. best of all no sway bars or leveling bars to deal with.
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I agree with the previous statement about the 05 f250 if it had the v10, too. If you picked up this used one with the 5.4 you would def. notice some greater stability and a little better pulling ability due to better gearing, but you would still struggle on hills. The v10,s were torque monsters. I have heard some guys claim that they were almost as good towing as the 7.3 diesels in their day. Look around for a mid 2000's SD with a v10 and I guarantee won't look back. One more thing to add, you will probably get a little better mileage towing with the v10, but expect to get worse mileage when you don't.
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Getting a larger motor will also get you better fuel economy. The motor will not be working as hard...
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Old 05-26-2012, 12:23 PM   #27
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My experience was different. I had a 2005 Silverado 1500 with the 5.3 and it pulled our 30' (overall) TT perfectly. It was working really hard in the hills but it pulled the trailer straight and solid. Since we live in Calif and are most always pulling in the mountains I wanted a diesel. We got a 2007 F250 PS and it pulls like a mule but the TT was all over the road, I could hardly keep it behind me in the hills. Worked on the hitch several times, and even took it to a hitch shop to dial it in for me. There was no change, bought a ProPride and it towed like a dream after that. To this day I don't know why the Silverado could handle the TT better that the F250 (not counting the power of the 250).

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My experience was different. I had a 2005 Silverado 1500 with the 5.3 and it pulled our 30' (overall) TT perfectly. It was working really hard in the hills but it pulled the trailer straight and solid. Since we live in Calif and are most always pulling in the mountains I wanted a diesel. We got a 2007 F250 PS and it pulls like a mule but the TT was all over the road, I could hardly keep it behind me in the hills. Worked on the hitch several times, and even took it to a hitch shop to dial it in for me. There was no change, bought a ProPride and it towed like a dream after that. To this day I don't know why the Silverado could handle the TT better that the F250 (not counting the power of the 250).

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That is weird.....
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That is weird.....
No, that is a Chevy!:hihi:
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No, that is a Chevy!:hihi:

Perhaps, but I do love my Ford F250...................

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Bigger Tow Vehicle

I have a 29l that I towed with an F150 and it was okay but my biggest issue was the tranny. It had a cooler but you could tell the whole dive triain was straining in tight situations where you had to shift a lot. I bought a Gmc 2500hd with 6litre and factory tow package and there is a huge difference. I don't tow enough for a diesel but the 6 with tow package doesn't feel the trailer. Even in Florida summer the tranny never gets above 200. The F150 is a good truck and the 29l is a light trailer that towes very well so unless you really want a new truck and, the better half agrees the F150 is a good choice. I would not feel comfortable with a heavier trailer though with the 150.
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My Tahoe did the job towing pretty well, but there's no comparison to a longer wheelbase and 3/4 ton suspension. Much more stable. I personally think Diesel is the only way to go if you tow a lot. I really like the Cummins, but I think Ford builds a little better truck around their engines overall.

The Tahoe got avg 10 MPG towing in the flats (didn't take it across the mountains). The diesel gets 13-14 average towing in the flats and still 11+ in the mountains, so the added cost of diesel fuel has been a wash so far.
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We spent 3 nights over Memorial Day weekend in Western MD at Rocky Gap SP and had a fabulous time. To get there (from the Harrisburg, PA region) we had to drive over 5 mountain ranges of which some had somewhat long steep grades (especially the Sideling Hill cut). It was certainly our heaviest haul yet as we had bikes and a generator onboard (no hook-ups). My TV did struggle up some of these mountain ranges (45 mph at 3200 rpm with the pedal bottomed out) but we managed. Other than the ranges, it pulled nicely (with overdrive on) between 60-65. Since I don't expect to be going in the direction of too many mountain ranges with my current set-up, I don't expect to upgrade to a larger TV anytime soon.

Thanks for all the feedback.

BTW, I highly recommend Rocky Gap SP. It's a beautiful mountainous setting, has a beautiful campground with a sand beach, has decent bathroom/shower facilities and has plenty of walking/bike trails including one around the perimeter of Lake Habeeb. There are at least 2 fresh water spigots within each loop. If you are into golf, there is a Jack Nicklaus signature golf course there. There is one campground loop with electric hook-up only. Check them out.

If anyone knows of any state parks on/near the East Coast (preferably MD, DE or NJ) that has full (or partial) hook-ups that you'd recommend, I'd be very interested in knowing about them. If there are private campgrounds that have allot of shade (i.e. trees), I'd also be interested in hearing about them as we certainly like shade and not sitting on top of other RVers. Although we had a very nice time with no hook-ups over this past weekend (except my generator), it's certainly nice to have all the benefits of hook-ups when we can get them.
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