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Old 05-21-2012, 12:16 PM   #1
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Do you gain a big advantage with an F250?

I own a 2011 Jayco Jay Feather 29L (5500 lbs dry) and tow it with a 2005 Ford F150 4x4 5.4L SC (3.55 axle)....see pic below in my signature. We have a Reese dual cam anti-sway/weight distribution set-up and use the Tekonsha P2 brake controller. Given this is my first trailer and truck, I have nothing to compare it to with regard to towing experience. I do feel it tows fine (and I feel pretty relaxed when pulling) although it does struggle a little on larger hills as I would expect it to. Occasionally, I'll feel a slight sway, but that's usually when a tractor trailer is passing me or I get a strong crosswind on an open highway.

So my question is, in your experiences what engine/body upgrade do you feel I would need to move to in order to feel an measureable improved pulling experience? I don't feel that going from my current F150 5.4L to an F250 with the same size gas engine would make much of a difference, but I'd like others' opinions on this since I really don't know. And putting the engine aside for a moment, does the heavier duty frame, etc. of an F250 make a towing experience better?

I'm just trying to decide if it's worth considering a 'swap' to a heavier duty truck frame and/or larger, more powerfull engine, and how big of a step I'd need to make in order to feel any real noticeable difference.

One last note is that my brother-in-law is a Ford master mechanic, so I would stick to a Ford for obvious reasons.

Thanks in advance.
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Old 05-21-2012, 12:29 PM   #2
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Assuming that your 150 has load range E tires, if you were to go with an F250 and a similar engine I don't think you would experience a whole lot of difference with that camper. The F250 is going to give you more payload and a little more comfort in the weight category. Now if you went with a larger engine or a diesel, I think that you would begin to see some difference in pulling.
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I went from a 1/2 ton suburban to a 3/4 diesel pickup. I never really felt that the suburban didn't have enough power, it just felt 'loaded up' when towing. The new truck obviously has more power being a diesel, but it also feels more confident when towing.
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If you were to trade for a brand new F250, you would notice a HUGE difference, regardless of which engine you went with (gas or diesel). If you were to trade for a 2005 with the 5.4 V8, the difference wouldn't be nearly as large, but still noticeable. You'll have bigger brakes and a longer wheelbase (assuming you stick with a crew-cab), along with a stiffer suspension. All of these things are better when towing (although not necessary for your current trailer). The tradeoff would be ride/comfort/etc when you aren't towing.

As far as the question of 'Is it worth it?', you are probably the only one who can answer that. If you're thinking about getting a bigger trailer in a few years, I'd go ahead and get a new truck now so that you can engine easier towing with your current trailer. Then you'd be ready for that bigger one whenever (although once you get a bigger truck, a bigger trailer usually follows closely behind!).
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my next will be a diesel, more than likely... more likely if toyota makes it

remember, even with the same engine and trans, the F250 is going to be geared differently for better towing. they won't be much fun on rough highways without a trailer (some strategically placed bags of concrete can help a bit with that)
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Old 05-21-2012, 02:49 PM   #6
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5arnolds-- You can change the 3:55's to 3:73'S & you would feel a difference in towing ( gas mileage also) or get a ECO-BOAST pu and REALLY feel a difference ( and in mileage this time to the good side) Larry
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Old 05-21-2012, 02:59 PM   #7
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when towing,greater load capacity PLUS HP/TORQUE is simply the only way to go.
Now ,if you tow 3 or 4 times a year for a short drive,probably not worth it.However if you go a couple of times a month why arent you at the dealer?A friend tows a 30ft brand x and thought his 08 f250 diesel was overkill and swapped for a 12 F150 with tow package,fuel eats him alive when towing now.
Why not just buy a good used f250 and keep it hooked up ready to go,?
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I towed with a 99 F250 for a while. It had the 5.4 as well. Being an early 5.4 it didn't have the hp the newer models have. Our 5th wheel was just over 7300 lbs. unloaded. It had to work pretty hard on the hills or traveling into a wind.

I think you would notice a favorable difference with the heavier truck. You may or may not notice a difference in power due to the heavier truck the engine has to move.

One thing about the 5.4 is it will work at high rpms all day long. It may not be one of the most powerful engines around but it is a very strong engine.
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my next will be a diesel, more than likely... more likely if toyota makes it

remember, even with the same engine and trans, the F250 is going to be geared differently for better towing. they won't be much fun on rough highways without a trailer (some strategically placed bags of concrete can help a bit with that)
Yes, I have seen the demo truck and love it. It's a nice dually diesel. It's no wonder the Tundra has always been best of class in the 1/2 ton catagory with the 4.3 gear ratio and the frame of the F350, and an American truck made in Indiana.
Can't wait to see how they will beef up that frame!
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