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Old 01-28-2015, 06:13 AM   #1
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Question E2 v E4 hitch? both equalizer? Confused

The dealer has me all confused after I thought I knew what I needed. We placed an order last weekend for a Jay Flight 28BHBE. I told the dealer I wanted an Equalizer WDH and a P3 brake controller. He showed me info in a book he had about a E2 and an E4 WDH. He said they were both equalizer's and the E4 was just for much heavier trailers. That I needed an E2. I get home and research and see the E2 doesn't look to be the equalizer WDH and doesn't have 4pt sway control. I write the dealer and he insists it is from the same company that makes the equalizer and the E4 would be overkill for my trailer. I know we are flirting with our payload limit with our TV a 2008 Toyota Tundra Crewmax 5.7 4X4 so I want the best WDH and brake controller. Is the dealer correct and I don't need the P4 (which he says is the equalizer with 4 point sway) or do I spend the extra $300 and get the P4? We are jumping from a PUP to a TT so I'm trying to learn all I can. Thanks
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Old 01-28-2015, 07:00 AM   #2
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At the very minimum, you NEED built in sway control. If you really want the best WDH then you need to look at the ProPride 3P or Hensley hitches. Get a Tekonsha Prodigy P2 or P3 brake controller. Don't let the dealer install anything else!
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Old 01-28-2015, 07:11 AM   #3
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Always buy the best and you will never be unhappy with it. I would buy the better WDH simply because you may want to upgrade in the future to a larger TT.
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Old 01-28-2015, 08:36 AM   #4
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The dealer has me all confused after I thought I knew what I needed. We placed an order last weekend for a Jay Flight 28BHBE. I told the dealer I wanted an Equalizer WDH and a P3 brake controller. He showed me info in a book he had about a E2 and an E4 WDH. He said they were both equalizer's and the E4 was just for much heavier trailers. That I needed an E2. I get home and research and see the E2 doesn't look to be the equalizer WDH and doesn't have 4pt sway control. I write the dealer and he insists it is from the same company that makes the equalizer and the E4 would be overkill for my trailer. I know we are flirting with our payload limit with our TV a 2008 Toyota Tundra Crewmax 5.7 4X4 so I want the best WDH and brake controller. Is the dealer correct and I don't need the P4 (which he says is the equalizer with 4 point sway) or do I spend the extra $300 and get the P4? We are jumping from a PUP to a TT so I'm trying to learn all I can. Thanks
Congratulations on your new trailer.

The 2 hitches are sold by the same company and they are similar. The E4 was designed by Progress Manufacturing and is the one Progress Manufacturing has been selling for a number of years. It is offered in various weight ranges from lower than your trailer to heavier than your trailer; it is NOT just for heavy trailers.

The E4 is the one I, and most others on this site, have been using for a number of years. The E4 is more expensive, but until more people have had experience with the other model, the E4 is the one I own and the one I'd recommend.

Please take a look at other articles on this site about sway. There are setup and tire issues that are important with the larger trailer.
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Old 01-28-2015, 08:51 AM   #5
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I could not find anything on Equalizer's website about the two systems.

Here is a video that I thought was really good. Based on what they said and my experience with an E4, I would buy the E4, as it has the integrated sway control and E2 does not.

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You will absolutely want the E4 for that trailer. I would go with the 1200lb bars. I am pulling a Jay Flight 28BHS and have the E4 with 1000lb bars. The 28BHBE is a long and heavy trailer and will require a heavy duty hitch with superior sway control. The E2 is good for lighter and shorter trailers.

Spend the extra money and get the E4 and MAKE SURE you buy the right sized one for the trailer you are buying. I am finding a lot of these dealers are taking the dry published tongue weight (which is understated to say the least) and are matching the hitch based on that value. What you should be doing is taking the GVWR, multiplying that by about 0.12 and that will be your max tongue weight. Purchase your bars based upon this value.
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Old 01-28-2015, 10:03 AM   #7
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Calculating tongue weight may not work. After you put all your stuff inside the trailer go to a CAT scale and weight it hooked up and then the TV alone to measure tongue weight and axle weights. My rig was supposed to have 1140 lbs tongue weight but actually measured 2200 lbs tongue weight with all my stuff. I had to order larger spring bars for the equalizer hitch which cost me an additional $200 with chains. If I had known this in advance I would have gotten the larger spring bars to start with. You may be able to ball park the additional weight. You don't want too heavy spring bars either as they won't give enough which defeats the purpose of them to begin with.
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Tell your dealer you want the E4 and you want them to match the price shown at the following site or you will order from the site and install yourself:

http://www.pplmotorhomes.com/parts/r...trol-hitch.htm

Shipping is only $9.99
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I tow a 2014 28BHBE, and I'm currently using the Fastway E2 (also made by Progress Manufacturing like the Equal-i-zer). This hitch uses the 1000/10000 round bar setup. It is adequate, but I would say barely.

If I had it to do over again, knowing what I know now, I would absolutely INSIST on the Equal-i-zer E4 in the 1200/12000 lb configuration (in fact, I'm going to sell mine to my brother to use with his enclosed utility trailer, and use that money to buy a brand new Equal-i-zer 1200/12000). My dealer spec'd the hitch based on dry weight. My measured tongue weight was 960 lbs, but I have since added weight to the front storage, so I know I'm over the 1000 lb rating on my bars, and they're a PITA to get on the hangers because they're maxed out.

The E4 hitch is a good compromise (IMHO) between the much more expensive hitches, and the much cheaper ones. They've been around for quite a while, and plenty of people are using them.
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Tell your dealer you want the E4 and you want them to match the price shown at the following site or you will order from the site and install yourself:

http://www.pplmotorhomes.com/parts/r...trol-hitch.htm

Shipping is only $9.99
When comparing prices, make sure the shank is included in the price. Some places don't include it in their hitch prices.
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