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Old 02-01-2016, 12:19 AM   #1
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F150 and 287BHSW TT. Am I OK?

I've learned a lot from you guys and I think I'm good to go, but I've also learned that tow capacity isn't everything, so I wanted to get your thoughts. I just ordered a F150 with the 3.5L Ecoboost and Max Trailer Tow package. According to the specs that should give me a 11,500 lbs tow capacity. How would you rate that for towing a 33' 287BHSW with a GVWR of 7,500? I feel like I should be well within my ability to tow this camper with that truck.

Also, the dealer is recommending a Husky Center Line TS hitch for this. What do you folks think about that product? Any good?

Thank you in advance for your thoughts on this and all the other great advice I've gotten from you all over the past year!
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Old 02-01-2016, 08:33 AM   #2
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I think the most experienced folks on this forum would advise you to hit the scales with or truck to figure out just how much available payload you have with the truck loaded (full gas, passengers, etc).

My 20113.5L ecoboost had a gross weight to 5980lbs with full fuel and me only. That left 1220lbs of cargo for my family and camper.

With full fuel, me, and the camper I was at my GVWR; and over weight on my rear axle. That is without my family in the truck. But hit the scales so you know for yourself if your okay. Nobody here will be able to tell you if you are 'ok', safe, etc.

I will tell you that the ecoboost had plenty of pulling power for my camper (similar weight loaded as yours). The half ton truck is capable of towing that camper; however, your hitch weight will be significantly higher than the 645lbs listed on the jayco web site. I would be prepared for a tongue weight of 1,000lbs easy. Mine was 1,160lb with WDH.

My experience towing a trailer of this size/weight was that under 60mph I had no complaints. Going down the highway at over 60mph, i would get pushed/pulled by every passing semi, and many pickups/SUV's.

Pulling power is no problem. Payload is maxed out. If you are planning cross country trips on the highway, be prepared that the driving experience could be tense at times, or all the time at highway speeds. The trailer weight is not the issue. The high profile size of a 30+ foot camper on a truck maxed out on payload is the issue.

If you trips are limited to local spots and <60 mph driving, I think you will be happy with that set up. I've read folks who say "I never know the trailer is back there" with the ecoboost. I think that is foolish with a 30' camper. And every time the cross wind blows, you will know it!

I love a half ton truck. It's capable of towing. It's not fun with a 30' high profile camper. If you ordered it and are stuck with it, you'll see what I mean. If you are dead set on that camper, but can reconsider the pick up, I would check out a 3/4 ton. The towing experience is night and day.

Regarding the hitch, I would either go with what the dealer is experience with that they can install and get set up 'properly' for you. Or, get what you are comfortable with and can set up properly. The key to a good WDH set up is knowing how it works and how to adjust it to work better.
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Old 02-01-2016, 09:47 AM   #3
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Payload will be your limiting factor and may be dependent on how you load your TT and TV. Scales provide concrete information to consider, it can be difficult to hit the scales with a truck or trailer that you do not have yet. The Max Tow package will increase your payload over a base F150 and provide a considerably stiffer ride while towing than an F150 without a max tow package (not to be confused with a tow package). Towing stability can further be increased with LT tires and airbags. You may wish to read about some actual towing experiences with Max Tow equipped F150's on the truck forums when making your decision.
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A lot depends on what else you plan to carry in your truck; family, firewood, bikes, coolers, etc?

The 287BHSW is a very nice floor plan, indicates you have kids, which means you will have more stuff than a typical weekend camping couple. You can safely assume your tongue weight will be 900+ lbs once you factor in batteries, propane, WD hitch and a few items in the front pass through.

Without knowing your actual weights it is only a guess, but I think you will be getting very close, if not over, your payload capacity.

Since you are ordering a new truck, why not get max payload as well as Max tow packages? That will certainly give you some advantage over a typically configured 150/1500 series truck.
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Towing stability can further be increased with LT tires and airbags..
Ottawasteve: do you have LT tires and airbags? When I had my F150 I tried a couple things to improve the towing. I was shopping LT tires and airbags for the F150 before I traded vehicles.

Just wondering if you have them, and your opinion of them in your situation. Don't mean to hijack OP.
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Payload capacity with all of my options will be 1751 lbs. I'm doing the half ton because of budget concerns but I want to make sure what I get will handle what I'm trying to pull. We're leaning towards getting the 287 to future proof ourselves from needing to trade up in the future...I just want it to be safe too.
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Payload capacity with all of my options will be 1751 lbs. I'm doing the half ton because of budget concerns but I want to make sure what I get will handle what I'm trying to pull. We're leaning towards getting the 287 to future proof ourselves from needing to trade up in the future...I just want it to be safe too.
That payload seems a little low if your getting maxtow, unless the new generations have gone down. I was at 1832 on a '13 lariat SCREW with maxtow.

With the weight of your trailer, you will probably be within your limits I would guess but close. As others have said, go to the scale, and really watch the cargo in both the trailer and the truck. Your probably not going to be able to pull it wet without being over payload. My trailer was noticeably heavier, and i was over, but not by much.

I'll echo the higher speed towing, at 60MPH+, your gonna get pushed a little by big vehicles. Definitely recommend LT tires if you can, otherwise inflate the truck tires to max PSI before you tow. Suspension upgrade will help a lot as well, I went with the Roadmaster Active suspension, simple install, and really helped with the bounce.
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NO..
IMO if you are asking this question then you have some doubt or concern..
I have a half tonne truck(rated for 10,000 + towing)with a 26 Bh and i would never want to pull a bigger trailer than that with a 1/2 tonne..
Payload issues are a big problem with 1/2 tonnes. Now adays the trucks are over rated...why MAX your truck out while towing? I like to give myself a 25-30% buffer...mind you, i tow with 2 young kids and my wife in the truck and i would never put their safety at risk for a couple extra feet of trailer..
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I'm doing the half ton because of budget concerns but I want to make sure what I get will handle what I'm trying to pull.
Have you looked at 250/350's yet and priced them? Last time I looked, the bigger trucks can be had cheaper, since you can get them striped down. And not stripped were comparable unless looking at the diesel.

Id look at and price them before casting them aside.
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Buy a ProPride 3P hitch and you will be more than happy towing that TT with the new Ecoboost. The ProPride hitch is night and day difference in the way your truck will tow. You will find yourself having to to check your speed to keep it to 65 or less (due to trailer tires only). My 26Bh weighs 6800 loaded and I have absolutely no issues with any sway or wiggle from tractor trailers or any other big trucks. I can even get into the "wash" behind tractor trailers and I get not even a hint of sway. I am 100% comfortable passing by slower rigs on the interstate. My Tundra is only rated to tow 9700 or so. I am definitely over weight on cargo though. We load heavy with wood, refrigerator in bed, bikes and kayaks as well as 2 batteries on the tongue.
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