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Old 07-04-2014, 08:44 AM   #31
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The most important thing is to match the TV to the TT. We have a 25Z which is 6000 GVW. We have the 8 cylinder engine on our F-150 and our tow rating is 9000 lb. We have air bags on the rear axle and an EZ lift WDH with a sway bar. Even when we go through the mountains, there is plenty of power and we can accelerate up hill even on 7% grades.

The 25Z has torsion bar suspension and is a good 6-8 inches lower than TT's with leaf springs. I think that has a lot to do with the stability along with being careful to keep the hitch weight close to the max through careful loading. (I added the air bags so we could easily do that without heavily loading up the WDH.) While I do not suggest leaving off the sway bar, I have forgotten to put it on several times and its hard to feel the difference except in higher cross winds.

At 28 feet overall, we are already close to the max size for many state parks. We have also been able to squeeze into campgrounds when larger rigs are being turned away. There is never going to be more than the two of us, so there is no reason to jump on the bigger is better bandwagon.
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Old 07-04-2014, 09:37 AM   #32
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The most important thing is to match the TV to the TT. We have a 25Z which is 6000 GVW. We have the 8 cylinder engine on our F-150 and our tow rating is 9000 lb. We have air bags on the rear axle and an EZ lift WDH with a sway bar. Even when we go through the mountains, there is plenty of power and we can accelerate up hill even on 7% grades.

The 25Z has torsion bar suspension and is a good 6-8 inches lower than TT's with leaf springs. I think that has a lot to do with the stability along with being careful to keep the hitch weight close to the max through careful loading. (I added the air bags so we could easily do that without heavily loading up the WDH.) While I do not suggest leaving off the sway bar, I have forgotten to put it on several times and its hard to feel the difference except in higher cross winds.

At 28 feet overall, we are already close to the max size for many state parks. We have also been able to squeeze into campgrounds when larger rigs are being turned away. There is never going to be more than the two of us, so there is no reason to jump on the bigger is better bandwagon.
How do air bags help with "loading of the wdh"?
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Old 07-07-2014, 09:48 AM   #33
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We test drove a F250 XLT and a Ram 2500 this weekend and ended up putting a down payment on the Ford.

The F250 was the same trim as the one we want to buy but it was a diesel. The door sticker payload number for this truck was down to 2000lbs! I was very surprised at how much the diesel knocks off payload. Base model payload for 4x4 crew, short box should be around 3150lbs.

We are getting the gasser as long as payload is north of 2700lbs or so. If not we might look at other options....F350 maybe.

Never looked at the Chevy even though I think they are the most attractive of the 3 and they are the lowest which is nice for loading kids. They need to update that 6.0 litre motor though. If we wanted a diesel I would have a look though.

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Old 07-08-2014, 06:53 AM   #34
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First thing I would look at is the tongue weight of the trailer.. it should be 10-15% of the total weight of the RV. Are the weight bars tightened enough?
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Old 07-14-2014, 10:16 AM   #35
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We got the Ford F250 on Wednesday night and hooked it up to the trailer on Thursday morning with just under 300kms on the new truck. I wasn't terribly comfortable towing without the recommended break-in but oh well.....



The truck towed well. Certainly better than the F150 did and we have payload to spare! No more weight or packing policing for me. The truck has 2727lbs listed payload on the door. So we should be around 2400lbs real payload after Line-X, undercoat, tonneau cover, floor mats, car seats.......and on, and on...

I am still undecided on our hitch though. I knew the Anderson could be an experiment when I bought it. I would really like to try a 4 pt Equalizer to compare the Anderson to.

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Old 07-14-2014, 11:01 AM   #36
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We got the Ford F250 on Wednesday night and hooked it up to the trailer on Thursday morning with just under 300kms on the new truck. I wasn't terribly comfortable towing without the recommended break-in but oh well.....



The truck towed well. Certainly better than the F150 did and we have payload to spare! No more weight or packing policing for me. The truck has 2727lbs listed payload on the door. So we should be around 2400lbs real payload after Line-X, undercoat, tonneau cover, floor mats, car seats.......and on, and on...

I am still undecided on our hitch though. I knew the Anderson could be an experiment when I bought it. I would really like to try a 4 pt Equalizer to compare the Anderson to.

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Old 08-15-2014, 09:58 PM   #37
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After a couple trips with the Anderson hitch I was not happy with the weight distribution part of the hitch so we purchased a Blue Ox Sway Pro with 1000lbs bars.

All in all it is a better hitch than the Anderson but the anti sway part isn't any better. Still gets pushed around by the wind and trucks passing. Weight transfer is good. Blue ox is way easier to hook up but the hitch head is heavy. The ride is much nicer...smoother than the Anderson but I can't say the trailer is any more stable. Maybe one day I will pony up for one of the higher end hitches, ProPride, Hennesy, but for now I am happy.

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Old 08-16-2014, 08:02 AM   #38
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F150 Stability vs 3/4 Ton

Glad u got it sorted out but surprised to hear that u get pushed around by trucks and wind. I've got the same blu ox hitch and 264 trailer. I tow with a 2500 gmc duramax and have no issues with trucks pushing me around ( have yet to tow in heavy winds). I have towed 4 times with this setup with each including time on interstates 495 or 895. So I have either passed or been passed by a lot of semis and dump trucks and have not been affected by their presence.
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Either get a pro pride hitch or a heavier truck and you will see a big difference. After having a half ton and now a one ton diesel srw there is just no comparison whatsoever.
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Old 08-16-2014, 12:22 PM   #40
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I am one that bought my truck for more than I will ever need. Although we have not made a trip yet due to other things getting in the way, we will go. I special ordered my F150 Ecoboost, 3:73 rear, Max Tow, HD pkg. My yellow sticker shows 2235 cargo.

My first trip to Colorado from Texas was in 1976 when I was two, my second trip in 1974 and many many trips after that. It is with that experience that I know I never want anything over 25 feet, and that might be pushing it. Its no so much the passes that must pulled, but the National Forest Campgrounds where its difficult to get the larger trailers parked.

I am not sure if any of the trailers I have been shopping lately have a GVWR over 5,000 pounds and that is 5,000 below my max for the truck.
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