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Old 06-09-2021, 01:56 PM   #21
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Hello,
Need to buy truck to tow Eagle HT 284BHOK.


Looking at Ford F150 Ecoboost.


anyone towing with a F150? Advise?


thank you,
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We have a 2020 Eagle HT 284BHOK and love the layout and quality of this trailer, however it pulls like a dog.

We pulled with a 2017 F-250 Super-duty 6.7 diesel CC 4x4 and while it has the power, the trailer sways back and forth going down the highway. It is and should be plenty of truck for this trailer.
Jayco needs to have their engineers look at the axle placement along with weight distribution of this trailer. According to the axle manufacturer, the axles are placed too close to each other.

I have performed all the checks, hitch weight, tire air pressures (trailer and truck) , change hitches three times, even purchased $3,000 Hensley hitch.

So to answer your question, I bought 2020 Ram 3500 DRW and it handles it fine.
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Old 06-09-2021, 02:38 PM   #22
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Answers are here. Look at the hitch weight. Ask an expert (not a sales person) about Weight Distributing Hitch, and if it will help you reduce the weight on your truck.

Go Super Duty, you won't regret it.

https://www.ford.com/cmslibs/content..._F150_Dec3.pdf
Like he said. I have a 2018 F150 if you wanna buy it though. Looking to get an F350.
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Old 06-09-2021, 02:49 PM   #23
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We have a 2020 Eagle HT 284BHOK and love the layout and quality of this trailer, however it pulls like a dog.

We pulled with a 2017 F-250 Super-duty 6.7 diesel CC 4x4 and while it has the power, the trailer sways back and forth going down the highway. It is and should be plenty of truck for this trailer.
Jayco needs to have their engineers look at the axle placement along with weight distribution of this trailer. According to the axle manufacturer, the axles are placed too close to each other.

I have performed all the checks, hitch weight, tire air pressures (trailer and truck) , change hitches three times, even purchased $3,000 Hensley hitch.

So to answer your question, I bought 2020 Ram 3500 DRW and it handles it fine.
Don't the axle manufacturers provide the springs as well? And if so, it's the springs that dictate the placement of one axle in relation to the other - the equalizer location is the center point of the axles. As for the placement of the equalizer, yes, maybe they need to go back to the drawing board, or maybe think about weight distribution of interior components / water storage tanks.

Just out of curiosity, are your water/ grey / black tanks fore or aft and did you travel with them full or empty?

Also, what tire pressure were you running on the rear axle of the f250? Often times, when not towing, people drop the rear axle pressure to make it ride better, but they forget to put more air back in when towing and that means more sidewall flex and allows the tail to wag the dog.
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Old 06-09-2021, 04:10 PM   #24
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Jayco apparently matches the HT, which does stand for Half Ton, only to the Tow Capacity of vehicles. But, Tow Capacity is a meaningless marketing number in the world of RVs. You'll run out of payload (GVWR) long before you touch the Tow Capacity number.

That trailer is a bunkhouse, so I'll assume at least a family of 4. That's 550 lbs right there. Add 50 lbs for the WDH. Add 100 lbs for gear, electronics, duffel bags, food, and other items in the truck. Will you take firewood, bikes, or anything else? Add that. For now, I'll say no to all of that and leave it at 700 lbs of fully clothed people and gear in/on the truck.

The trailer will tip in at 9,500 - 10,000 lbs rolling down the road. Let's take the smaller number and use a 13% tongue weight = 1,250 lbs on the truck.

Thus, you'll want at least 2,000 lbs of payload capacity (and 2,200+ is much better). If your heart is set on an F-150 for this trailer, then you'll need to find/order an HDPP F-150. Few, if any, regular 3.5 EB F-150s will have 2,000 lbs of payload (GVWR) capacity.

But, this monster trailer should never, ever be marketed as half-ton towable. It's really long and really heavy.
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My 2019 F150 Lariat has 1739 lbs payload!
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Old 06-09-2021, 07:17 PM   #26
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Yep, that’s exactly my point. It takes a special F-150 to pull the beast. Most fall into the 1,600-1,800 lb range, and that’s just not nearly enough. HDPP F-150 would be well north of 2,000 lbs …. usually in the 2,200-2,400 range.
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Old 06-09-2021, 07:50 PM   #27
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5.0/3.5 turbo

Had a 5.0 in our 13 f150, 3.5T in our 19 f150. Both pulled the same 2017 Jayco Jay Flight 23RB. Definitely prefer the 3.5. Better response and 2 MPG better. Try taking a baggage scale and weigh all the material goods you take on your trip. It will give you an idea of what you need for a puller.
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Old 06-09-2021, 08:42 PM   #28
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I had similar issue and did a lot of research.
You are going to need the EcoBoost engine 3.5L EcoBoost V6 and a wheel to axle ratio 3.73 with the maximum tow package to pull 14,000 lbs. Good Luck!

https://www.fleet.ford.com/content/d...owingGuide.pdf
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Old 06-09-2021, 09:04 PM   #29
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Go with at least a 250/2500 w/ 3.73 or higher gear.
I own a 312Bhok HT (2 months now) and tow with a f-250, 6,2l. Ht’s i agree are meant for Heavier Trucks as stated in a previous post.
Dial your hitch in, I’m still working on mine…Blue Ox Sway pro 1500lb, by stealership, though upgraded to 2000lb after and working still dial in for more comfort pullin….
All the best. DB
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That's a big trailer. I had an EcoBoost f150 pulling smaller than that and it struggled in the mountains. Especially braking. Switched to f250 6.7 diesel. Night and day. Plus better fuel mileage. I say don't on the f150. You will regret it later.
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I had similar issue and did a lot of research.
You are going to need the EcoBoost engine 3.5L EcoBoost V6 and a wheel to axle ratio 3.73 with the maximum tow package to pull 14,000 lbs. [...]
Max tow doesn't increase payload capacity. It adds some things that help with other aspects of towing, but to tow this trailer in question is really about payload. Max tow doesn't help at all with payload. The package that is needed is the HDPP.
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Old 06-10-2021, 01:21 PM   #32
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if you go with one of the new F250's with a gas motor you will be fine.. you won't need a 350. IF you were to go diesel then a 350 would be in order....although the new numbers 2020 and up? have larger payloads vs 2019 and earlier in the diesel space....

Good luck on your choice but a 150 probably isn't the right tool...
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Been there done that. I have a Eagle ht 280rsok. It’s gross is 10,000 pounds. I had a 2019 f150 with max tow package with 1770 payload, 12,900 towing capacity. Once I got the trailer home and loaded I scaled it. I was under my towing. Capacity by 2600 pounds and under my combined gross by 2600, but I was over gross on the pickup by 400 pounds, and over the rear axle rating by 200 pounds. Plus I was over what the class 4 hitch rating by 150 pounds. I bought f250 gas 3150 payload, and it handles the trailer far more comfortably, and the braking is greatly improved.
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