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Old 08-20-2015, 06:00 PM   #1
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Ford F-150 ecoboost question

I am new to this forum and have a question regarding purchasing a 2015 Jayco Octane SL 273. The question is: my tow vehicle will be a 2014 Ford F-150 Supercrew with the 3.5l ecoboost V-6. It is a 4x4 with the 5.5 bed. It has the tow package and TBC installed rear axle is the 3.55. GVW is 7200# and have a GCWR of 15500. The truck weight with a full tank and driver is 6020#'s. The trailer has a 6498 empty weight (weight includes 2 filled 20 Gallon propane tanks and full fuel tank for fueling station) addtional cargo capacity of 3400#'s.

Is the F-150 truck enough to pull it?

I forgot to mention that I will be installing a WDC hitch as well.
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Old 08-20-2015, 06:12 PM   #2
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a few more numbers are needed from you.
1st. what is payload capacity of the truck. (from door sticker)
2nd. what is GVW of the TT
take GVW of trailer and multiply by 0.15. this is your max tongue weight.
from the GVW listed in the brochure your hitch weight will be in the area of 1500lbs at max GVW. even dry the hitch is near 1000lbs.
if this is anywhere near your payload of the truck, then the truck is NOT enough to pull it SAFELY. (the Ecoboost can tow a lot, but that does not mean it is SAFE)
You also need to account for whoever and whatever else you will be loading into the TV (truck). this all takes away from the available payload for the tongue weight. also, the WDH will take away about 100lbs from payload.
your next step after all these calculations is to hit the local CAT scale. you will soon realize that the scale is your best friend.
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Old 08-20-2015, 06:20 PM   #3
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Thanks for the quick response. The payload is 1411# as listed on the door jamb. I took the truck today to a cat scale and had it weighted with a full tank of gas and myself in the driver seat the weight was 6020. The yellow sticker inside the trailer door reads 6498# with full propane cylinders and full generator fuel. The sticker also says the weight of the cargo should never exceed 3452#.
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I don't see to many TH being pulled by 150/1500 around here.

A ~1400 cargo capacity on the f150 is pretty low, especially after you load your toys in the trailer and any cargo you plan to in the truck bed.

Jayco publishes the "dry hitch weight" at nearly 1000lbs. That is without battery, propane, or any load in the toy hauler.

Admittedly I'm conservative, but based on the numbers you shared I wouldn't feel comfortable with that combination.
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Old 08-20-2015, 08:18 PM   #5
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I don't see to many TH being pulled by 150/1500 around here.

A ~1400 cargo capacity on the f150 is pretty low, especially after you load your toys in the trailer and any cargo you plan to in the truck bed.

Jayco publishes the "dry hitch weight" at nearly 1000lbs. That is without battery, propane, or any load in the toy hauler.

Admittedly I'm conservative, but based on the numbers you shared I wouldn't feel comfortable with that combination.
Thanks for the response as well. In measuring my gear and toys I am only looking at a cargo weight in the trailer of less than 2200#including water.
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Please search through the forums for more information on towing. Also consider length of TT with regards to weight. I posted a thread and have echoed the story on another thread of a good friend whose TV and TT were totaled (he happened to be driving an F150). The weight measurements were safely underneath what the F150 was rated to handle. The issue that caused the wreck was a case of "the tale wagging the dog". Even with WDH and sway bars, the TT was long enough that when a "perfect storm" of circumstances hit, the trailers whipping became to much and off the road he went. All of this was witnessed by another friend who followed behind with a similar setup but driving a 3/4 ton TV. No issues with the heavier truck.
I am all for these lighter trailers and the abilities of today's half ton trucks, but when you start approaching weight limits you also have to consider wheel base lengths to. I would rather be safe and have more truck than I really need then to end up with both rigs totaled and a nice hospital stay.
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Wow thanks for that info I will really make sure it is the right thing to get
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My TV is a ecoboost SCREW has the maxtow with the 3.73 gears, and my sticker is 1832 on the payload. My GCWR on my jayco is 9750 meaning the tongue at 15% figuring max allowed weight on the trailer would be a hair under 1500, and I would say I am right on the edge of comfort, I wouldn't want it any heavier. I also don't think I have had the tongue near that YET as I haven't towed wet and it doesn't have a ton of cargo in it. Haven't been to the scales, hope to in the next few weeks as we are fully loaded for our next camping trip.

After only towing a few times, I fast found out the rear suspension needs help, so plan on that if you go this route. I added roadmaster active suspension which made a big difference. Next thing on the list will probably be LT tires as the tires I have are P-Rated now, guessing yours may be as well. I have also been batting the idea of swapping the truck out for a 3/4 ton soon before it gets too old as its still fairly new and has low miles, not sure what I am going to do yet honestly.

Listen to the people here, they have a wealth of knowledge. Feel free to search for a few of my previous posts along a similar subject for recommendations/warnings on the ecoboost, or just search for ecoboost in general, you will get a lot of good threads.

Engine wise it really is very good, almost seems too good and probably makes many people not even realize or think they are nearing their payload. You will also get significantly better mileage keeping it under 60, and as many others will advise you (and taught me on this forum), the tires on the trailer aren't met to go over 65 anyway.
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Good information thank you very much and will take this in consideration. Thanks again
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Old 08-21-2015, 12:40 AM   #10
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Ford F-150 ecoboost question

The max tongue weight allowed for the receiver on the 2014 F-150 is 1130 pounds. So if the dry tongue is already 1000, I'd say there's no way you'll be able to keep it under the max allowed tongue weight.

Even if you decide to ignore Ford's manual on the subject and go by the stickers on the receiver, that gives you only 1150 pounds max tongue weight. Now that's on my receiver with the Max Tow option. I don't know if all models have the same receiver although I believe they do.

http://www.ford.com/resources/ford/g...F150_Sep11.pdf

Here's a pic of my 2014 F-150 receiver sticker. Note that my max towing capacity is 11,200 pounds, not the 11,500 that the receiver maxes out at. And my truck's GVWR is 7650.

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