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Old 08-06-2014, 04:51 PM   #11
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The 1,250lb pin weight you quoted, is that a "unloaded" (dry) weight or "loaded" scaled weight?

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That's unloaded pin weight. It's probably a moot point now, cuz he went ahead and "did the deed". Maybe I'll submit another post in about a year and tell you about what a great combination he has. Either that or, what his new TV is .
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Old 08-06-2014, 05:24 PM   #12
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Thanks for the follow-up...., and I hope all works out well for your friend.

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Old 08-06-2014, 07:14 PM   #13
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I have no doubt the EcoBoost will pull it. I will also bet the truck will be over-loaded. When we had the EcoBoost (which I loved), we went on a trip to NY. Pulled into a campground in PA for the night. An hour later, there were 8 EcoBoosts there, 5 of them pulling 5th wheels. A couple of those 5th wheels were quite large (and I mean quite large). All of the owners said they had no problem pulling the 5'ers. Some of them also did not seem to care about weight ratings.
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Not to pile on, but my 5er has a 1200 lb tongue weight and I added full air bags under my 2500 to level up. I almost wish I was driving a 3500

I'm highly doubting that the 1500 will be safe to drive with that load.

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Old 08-07-2014, 11:17 AM   #15
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I considered the Ecoboost F-150 a couple years ago but decided on a Duramax. I knew a new camper was in the works even though we were not sure which one. The reason I went with the Duramax was the fact it is better having too much power and not needing it, than needing more power and not having it. We ended getting a new Eagle TT 284BHS. Loaded it's over 8K, too much for any half ton truck.

One fact I'd like to point out. When it comes to 5th wheel trailers that are "half ton towable", it is always the camper manufacturer that makes the claim and not the company that made the truck. Just sayin'.
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I've also got the 284BHS. While I agree with going as big as you can, to say that trailer is too much for ANY half ton is a bit of a stretch. I've towed mine for 3 years with a Chrysler Aspen with zero issues. And that's an SUV. Of course I've never loaded it to full capacity as I see no reason to pull it with 80 gallons of water.

I've only recently upgraded to a Silverado 2500 due to my kids getting older and therefore heavier. This year I went over my weight limits and so the purchase. I've no desire to test any weight limits especially where safety is concerned.

But a half ton would pull the 284BHS easily. You just have to keep an eye on that payload number. Like putting "stuff" in the trailer instead of the vehicle. All about balancing the weight. And knowing the weight with CAT scale verification. Of course it's much less of a concern with a bigger truck though.

Good point about the half ton towable claims being made by the trailer companies and not the vehicle manufacturer though.
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^Agreed. An 8000lb bumper pull travel trailer is PRIME EcoBoost territory. Power is no issue, again it's the age old story of payload. This is the first thing any half ton purchaser should be looking at.

The whole "Half Ton Towable" statement is pure BS. You can't just say "an EcoBoost can/can't pull that trailer" either because there are way too many variables that change the capability of the truck.

I have seen EcoBoosts with payloads as low as 1100lb due to high trim levels and low gear ratios. Similarly, I have seen other Eco's that have 2400lb payloads. It all depends on the individual truck.
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"One fact I'd like to point out. When it comes to 5th wheel trailers that are "half ton towable", it is always the camper manufacturer that makes the claim and not the company that made the truck. Just sayin'."

About that: the Ford F150 towing capabilities guide lists, "maximum towing capabilities - conventional/fifth wheel towing." So, sometimes it is the auto maker that makes the 'half-ton towable fifth wheel' claim.
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