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Old 04-23-2014, 11:20 AM   #11
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I have a hunch that I'm going through what most of you have gone through at some point. Here I have a TV that I love but have been bitten by the trailer bug. And now I am considering a RAM 1500 or such and my wife is wondering what the heck is going on!

I agree the payload issue is the hidden flaw. We all focus on the towing capacity but neglect to factor in the payload initially. The more I have learned, the more I have realized how much I don't know, but find your help invaluable.
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Old 04-23-2014, 11:27 AM   #12
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I have a hunch that I'm going through what most of you have gone through at some point. Here I have a TV that I love but have been bitten by the trailer bug. And now I am considering a RAM 1500 or such and my wife is wondering what the heck is going on!

I agree the payload issue is the hidden flaw. We all focus on the towing capacity but neglect to factor in the payload initially. The more I have learned, the more I have realized how much I don't know, but find your help invaluable.
You'll want to watch the payload on that RAM too. IIRC, they have coil springs on the drive axle (as opposed to the more standard leaf springs; makes for a nice ride, but doesn't handle as much payload) in the 1/2 tons, so the payload has been very minimal in the past (read worst in segment).

Not trying to get you too far off here, but I've been eying the 2500 and 3500 model RAM trucks pretty closely. My cousin works in the industry and says there is some scuttle butt around the office about major redesigns slated for 2018... Incidentally, he has a 1500 with the Hemi and LOVES it, but then he only tows a small flat bed with a motorcycle or quad in it.
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Old 04-23-2014, 11:41 AM   #13
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You'll want to watch the payload on that RAM too. IIRC, they have coil springs on the drive axle (as opposed to the more standard leaf springs; makes for a nice ride, but doesn't handle as much payload) in the 1/2 tons, so the payload has been very minimal in the past (read worst in segment).

Not trying to get you too far off here, but I've been eying the 2500 and 3500 model RAM trucks pretty closely. My cousin works in the industry and says there is some scuttle butt around the office about major redesigns slated for 2018... Incidentally, he has a 1500 with the Hemi and LOVES it, but then he only tows a small flat bed with a motorcycle or quad in it.
my buddy just got a 2014 Ram 2500 4x4 loaded with the Cummins Diesel. It is sick. He loves it.

Good call on the RAM 1500 payload. It's only 1650 lbs. I believe the F150 and GMC 1500 is 1900ish.
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Old 04-23-2014, 11:48 AM   #14
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Just note that regardless what the brochures and websites say, all truck models within each brand are different. The addition of options and the like effect the maximum available payload. All trucks should have a sticker, usually on the driver's door, that will show the maximum payload for that vehicle. The maximum on the pretty brochure is usually a bone stock, non-optioned vehicle. Older vehicles may not have a similar sticker.

TV payload and GCVW will get you if you are not careful.
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If you have any plans to go bigger trailer wise in the future and are thinking of a bigger TV, I would just skip the 1500 step and go right to a 2500. I had a 2010 gmc 1500 that I really loved but sold it to get a gmc 2500 when we decided we were going to get a trailer.
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Old 04-23-2014, 11:49 AM   #16
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my buddy just got a 2014 Ram 2500 4x4 loaded with the Cummins Diesel. It is sick. He loves it.

Good call on the RAM 1500 payload. It's only 1650 lbs. I believe the F150 and GMC 1500 is 1900ish.
That's the one I've been looking at too. That's a nice truck! Although I was a little confused when I was looking at payload for the 2500 trucks with the CTD vs the 6.4L Hemi gasser. The difference in payload is quite significant with the CTD being WAY less than I would expect.

With the Hemi, payload is listed at ~3,280 lbs; same truck (2500, Crew Cab, Short Box, Tradesman Package, 4x4) with 6.7L CTD listed at ~2,330 lbs. Is the Diesel really that much heavier than the gasser?
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I am picking up my Jayco Jay Flight 26bh this Friday!. Same as mention above. Jayco brochure and the yellow sticker that you seen on the did not match exact. I knew it would be off a bit but the yellow sticker shows 500 lbs heavier because of the options that was added. Many Dealership now taking pictures of the yellow sticker to give you a head up, which is nice since it save my phone calls. Good luck and Happy Camping!
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Ram 1500, max towing is only just over 10,000# with payload of only 1,800#. The 2500 rates at 18,000 and 3,000. You don't have to pay for a diesel, although they rock. But with the 2500 you've got a real tow vehicle. Of course, I'd recommend a Ford, but that's just me.
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If you have any plans to go bigger trailer wise in the future and are thinking of a bigger TV, I would just skip the 1500 step and go right to a 2500. I had a 2010 gmc 1500 that I really loved but sold it to get a gmc 2500 when we decided we were going to get a trailer.
+1, I LOVE my truck, but if I had it to do over, I would get at least a 2500. I've been looking a lot, and the additional expense to go all the way up to a 3500 isn't that great a jump. But most of the 3500s I've seen don't offer gas engines; diesel only.

On the other hand, I don't really tow all that much, so the 1/2 ton makes a nice daily driver. The other, other hand: my commute is only 7 miles a day...

decisions decisions...
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As stated by a few of the people in here, the payload issue is indeed the hidden flaw in your calculations and one that you do not want to ignore. I had the same kind of issue when I owned my '07 Chevy Avalanche. It COULD tow the trailer but once that same trailer was loaded and a couple of extra family members were thrown in - not to mention anything in the box - it just wasn't as comfortable a set up. Now that I moved up to a '12 Chevy 2500HD I certainly don't have to worry about those payload issues or how comfortable the tow experience will be. And I really liked my Avalanche but it just wasn't the most suited to towing our 26BH. Bite the bullet...move on up to a different tv for your own peace of mind.
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