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Old 09-11-2018, 12:24 PM   #1
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Just traded off 2010 F150 5.4 gasser for a 2018 F150 Lariat 3.5 Ecoboost, hoping I made good choice. I'm little confused with all the numbers to look at, and not fully understanding their meanings. Trailer is a 2017 23RLSW. Attached are pic's, 1 question is can someone explain the "7050# GVWR Package" line on the window sticker, what's that telling me? TIA
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Old 09-11-2018, 01:46 PM   #2
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From what I can tell, that would mean your truck has a GVWR of 7050lbs.

That would mean if you weighed it on some scales, your MAX weight can be 7050, which includes the truck, driver, passengers, fuel, cargo AND tongue/pin weight.

The tire and loading sticker for the truck says max weight for occupants and cargo is 1531lbs, which would mean the truck "as built" supposedly weighs 7050-1531 = 5519lbs.

Your max trailering weight is 10,700lbs, which you are obviously under with your trailer having a "dry" weight of 5000lbs, and 995lbs cargo.

This is where your max weight for occupants and cargo of 1531lbs gets eaten up pretty quick. Your tongue weight will probably be 600-700lbs when loaded (depending on how you load), which would leave you with ~850lbs for passengers and cargo.

A good test would be to get loaded up for camping and hit some CAT scales to see how you are loaded, and if you need to move cargo around (either from the trailer to the truck, truck to trailer, more forward in the trailer, more to the rear of the trailer, or leave at home). I did that with my setup (Toyota Tundra, x213), and found that I was just over the limits for the truck and the trailer (but I only have 1300lbs for cargo room, as opposed to your 1531, and we are a family of 4).

Take a look here for a CAT scale how-to, which has some more information about those numbers as well: https://www.jaycoowners.com/forums/f...v-tt-3871.html

Good luck, and Happy Camping!
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Old 09-11-2018, 01:48 PM   #3
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GVWR is the maximum allowable weight of the fully-loaded vehicle, including passengers and cargo.
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You should be fine. I also have a 23RLSW, towing it with a 2010 F150 5.4L 3.55. Points to ponder:
  • That GVWR on your truck means you have about 1500-1600 payload capacity. 2 people, luggage & other cargo may be about 500-600 lb.
  • The "7050# GVWR Package" is just marketing language. It basically means your truck came with towing capability, like a brake controller - not all trucks do.
  • GVWR of your trailer is 5995, which will put up to 900 lb. on the hitch. That's part of your payload.
  • You're basically okay with GCVR of your truck and that trailer, and its theoretical towing capacity (which can be almost meaningless when pulling a travel trailer - payload capacity is much more important). Having said that, if both are fully loaded you're going to be pretty close to your truck's GCVR rating.
  • Should be no problem if you're careful about how much cargo you put in the truck bed.
I've towed mine on 3 round trips to Maine from PA with no issues. Gas mileage sucks, but that's the way it is. I usually get about 10-11 mpg when towing.


Good luck and enjoy!


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Old 09-14-2018, 02:20 AM   #5
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He won't even be close on the GCWR. Truck GVWR is 7050# and TT is 6000# total 13050#. Subtract 800# tongue weight from this as it contributes to the Truck weight for a total 12250# GCVWR. This is almost 4000# under the max GCVWR for his truck.
That being said I towed with a 2014 F150 Screw 3.5 Ecoboost 6.5 Foot bed steel body truck. TT was 7700# and 31feet overall. Never experienced a bad moment. I can't comment as to the aluminum body as I have no experience.
I can comment as to the Ecoboost's pulling ability. It is phenomenal. The torque curve was set up to maximize towing. The 2nd generation Eco has been given an increase in Torque and HP. With the addition of the 10 speed you will not be disappointed.
Good Luck.

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