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Old 02-22-2013, 09:08 PM   #11
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Terry,
Can you install a 2" ball on a 2.5" draw bar?
Isn't the draw bar the part that goes into the receiver?


I've always read good things about the firestone airbags on the 4Runner forum.


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Old 02-22-2013, 09:10 PM   #12
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snip......I was researching 2012 Ford towing specs and found that max tongue weight for my truck [crewcab, diesel] is 1400lbs, which is where I'm at with my TT, I think. Confusing part is what the hitch label says with a 2.5 in draw bar.....snip
Terry,

The weight ratings noted on the OEM receiver apply only to the receiver, not necessarily the TV..., that's why the statement on the receiver label; "See owners manual for specific rating".

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Old 02-22-2013, 09:26 PM   #13
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snip..... Both Firestone and Airlift tout better sway control than any WDH on the market....snip
Terry,

That's an interesting claim by both manufactures, but I guess they can say it because a standard WDH doesn't perform any sway control function, it just distributes weight.

I agree that air bags can provided added stability do to increased cargo weight and reduce rear TV squat, but I'm open to learn how they provide sway control for the trailer in tow.

I wonder if they mean that an airbag will aid in maintaining rear TV stability (minimize degree of squat) when under added load similar to the way a WDH lifts the rear of TV during it's weight distribution process? Just trying to understand where they may be coming from.

Apologize for drifting off topic, but my curiosity got the best of me

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Agree Bob. I didn't get that either.
As you note, the way they worded it could be very misleading unless we find otherwise.
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Doug, the 2.5 in Reese Titan draw bar or shank is what the hitch head bolts onto. My hitch head has a 2&5/16 ball mounted to it already. I couldn't put a 2in ball on it because the shaft of the 2in ball is smaller than the 2&5/16. I guess I could get a smaller hitch head to bolt on a 2in ball. I already have a smaller 2in Reese drawbar with a 2in drop that has the ball already mounted, so when I pull the pontoon boat I just slip in the adapter and away we go. Bob, I have searched my owners manual for a specific tongue weight rating and can't find anything. Got curious, thats why I looked it up on Fords web. Just relaying web info on the airbags. If you go to Airlifts website, it says "virtually eliminates sway". Don't know how they do it either. From everything I've heard though, they make for a better towing experience. Terry
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OK, the Airlift website shows a TV/ TT combo and specifically says "Goodbye squat, trailer sway and bottoming out" Just wanted to be sure! lol! Click on Loadlifter 5000.
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Terry,

I believe that Air Lift manufactures some great products..., so I guess at the end of the day any product that enhances the stability of a TV's suspension can't be all bad!

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Bob, I agree but I hope people won't misconstrue the reality of the situation. Yes, you can pump the airbags up to level out the TV/TT, but overloaded at the tongue and or GVWR is still overloaded even with the airbags. Just a thought, Terry
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snip..... but overloaded at the tongue and or GVWR is still overloaded even with the airbags....snip
Well stated.
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Dave, here is a picture of the label on my class 5 hitch.Attachment 6592 I was wondering if you had the same on your truck. I was researching 2012 Ford towing specs and found that max tongue weight for my truck [crewcab, diesel] is 1400lbs, which is where I'm at with my TT, I think. Confusing part is what the hitch label says with a 2.5 in draw bar. CAT scale will take away all the guess work. Which air bags did you go with? Both Firestone and Airlift tout better sway control than any WDH on the market. I have to wait before I install air bags until I can figure out what my actual tongue weight is so I'm not overloaded. I don't like using the adapter either but I have to because I pull a 20ft pontoon boat with a 2in ball. Terry
Terry, The label is the same on mine. I went with the Firestone air bags. As far as sway control, I love my Dual-cam hitch. I doubt the air bags have anything to do with actual trailer sway. It does make the truck more stable and solid at highway speeds though. The air bags act like an anti-roll bar in the rear suspension, as long as you have them plumbed separately. If you have them plumbed into a "t" fitting to air them up, as you take a curve, the air has the ability to flow from one bag to the other, reducing their effectiveness.

I also found a 2 1/2 inch ball mount that I have a 2 inch ball on for my buddies boat trailer. I still have to use the adapter for my utility trailer because it takes a 1 7/8 inch ball.

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