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Old 07-23-2012, 08:58 AM   #21
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snip...... or am I missing something?
I think another advantage of a 5th wheel is that the over all length of the TV/FW combination is a little shorter with the same floorspace as a TT because of the portion of the 5th over the box of the TV. Oh, 5th's have more storage..... "the basement"

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Old 07-23-2012, 09:40 AM   #22
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Boubou, personally I have had both a Ranger and currently have a Dakota. The Ranger fit my needs when I was in my 20ís. I camped a lot (backpacking & canoeing) and single. It got 29 mpg on a regular basis. Ford did not recommend any towing with mine as it was a 4 cylinder with dual ignition (8 plugs). Great truck with lots of power, but I did not buy it to pull a trailer. My Dakota has the worst configuration for towing capacity (Quad cab, 4x4). It has a tow capacity of 5700 lbs. A two wheel drive regular cab with a tow package has a tow capacity of 7000 lbs. When I bought it, it fit my needs and a lot more, it easily pulls both the utility & canoe trailers. We had the intensions to purchase a popup, but never found one we liked. We now pull our hybrid with easy. It is more than enough truck for our needs. I have no desire ever to purchase and pull one of the big trailers. Another selling point for us; the Dakota barely fits in our very low height, short garage. I have to admit I have seen what I thought was small trucks and SUVs pulling trailers that I thought were too big for them.
I understand your point, I myself had a 93 Ranger back in the day and used it well. I spoke out of frustration from purchasing a 1/2 ton when I wish I had gotten a 3/4 ton so when I see small trucks, I scratch my head and forget lots of people want them for gear and not towing.
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I think another advantage of a 5th wheel is that the over all length of the TV/FW combination is a little shorter with the same floorspace as a TT because of the portion of the 5th over the box of the TV. Oh, 5th's have more storage..... "the basement"

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Good points. On the flip side, you lose access to a lot of your truck bed for storage, which is where I put a lot of junk like table, blue boy, grill, generator, extra 5 gal gas can, etc.
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Old 07-23-2012, 02:13 PM   #24
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Mike,

I agree, I like having my truck bed open for "stuff".

Your earlier point on the weight of the 5th wheel hitch..., it has to take away another 100lbs - 150lbs from a 1/2 ton's limited payload capacity.

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Old 07-23-2012, 02:36 PM   #25
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Last winter, while at an RV show, I was looking at a HT towable 5er. This one had a dry weight about 8,000lbs and a pin weight about 1,500lbs. I commented to the guy next to me that the pin alone on this 5er would max out a HT. He apparently had a 5er because he said no problem, he loads it such that the pin is only 400lbs. I didn't call him on that, but thought to myself it can't be stable that way. But then again 5ers are inherently more stable. I still don't think I would want to load a 5er to be tail heavy. On the other hand, he could have been joking, but his expression led me to believe he was being honest.
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snip....... I didn't call him on that, but thought to myself it can't be stable that way. But then again 5ers are inherently more stable. I still don't think I would want to load a 5er to be tail heavy.
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Not something I would do, or recommend someone to do to get around a low 1/2 ton payload capacity. I wonder how a 1/2 ton TV with a 400lb pin weight and a 9,500lb loaded FW would handle??

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Not something I would do, or recommend someone to do to get around a low 1/2 ton payload capacity. I wonder how a 1/2 ton TV with a 400lb pin weight and a 9,500lb loaded FW would handle??

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Bob,
I wouldn't want to find out.
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