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Old 08-23-2013, 03:16 PM   #11
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I have the exact same thoughts, nearly 3 years ago I made the switch from a 1/2 ton to a 3/4 ton, I went for broke thought and got a diesel. Long story short, I love towing with my 3/4 ton.
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Old 08-23-2013, 03:55 PM   #12
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Something must have been amiss with that particular setup......snip
I agree....., IMO it wasn't a 3/4 ton truck issue, sounds more like a TV/TT combination set-up issue (WDH, hitch ball height, etc.). The fact that the "truck barely budged" doesn't mean that weight wasn't removed from the TV's steering axle.

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Old 08-23-2013, 04:52 PM   #13
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Impressions towing with 3/4 ton vs 1/2 ton

For a trailer that size I think the gear was killing you more than anything.

When my commuter car that I use
To just go to train station does I plan on picking up a mid 90s diesel 3/4 or full ton. Just can't afford the beating we would take on our 11 1500 crew 3.73 5.3. It pulls the 26bh fine loaded in fact I don't go into tow mode unless in in foothills.
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Old 08-24-2013, 08:46 PM   #14
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I am gonna go against the norm here and state that I like the 1/2 ton Tundra much better than my 3/4 ton Ram! The ram was basically the same, 4x4, 5.7L gas, auto and 4 doors as the Tundra. The Tundra make much more power and it in useable ranges. This is mostly due to the 6 speed auto and 4.30 gears. The Ram had a 5 speed auto and 3.73 gears. When I bought the Tundra, I knew I might need to spend money on a good hitch so I did and it definitely pulls better than the Ram. I pulled the 26 BH with both trucks so loaded weights were the same. Nice thing with the 1/2 ton is I get about 10% better towing fuel economy and about 40% better empty driving fuel economy. I don't regret going to a 1/2 ton at all. To all the guys comparing towing with a 1/2 ton gasser to a 3/4 or 1 ton diesel, that's not a fair comparison at all!
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Old 08-24-2013, 09:51 PM   #15
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I'm new to the TT experience, we recently upgraded from a popup to a 2013 242. But I must say, I have no trouble pulling my 24 footer with my 2012 Ford FX2 Sport with EcoBoost. With the truck in Tow/haul mode, the ride was smooth and the engine had no difficulties going from ~4300 feet elevation to ~8600. Its a steady climb with a 6% grade. Granted the TT had a minimum load (about a weeks worth of supplies and clothing). All tanks were empty (except the 2x 20lbs propane tanks were full) and I had left the generator at home since the RV park had electric & water. Coming down off the mountain the truck remained in 2nd or 3rd gear except for the few times I overrode the T/H mode and I only had to use my brakes sparingly. All in all I am pleased with my TV TT combination.
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Keeping our same TT, we went from an '85 3/4T 4x4 Suburban to an '05 2500HD GMC Quad 4x4 and even thought they are both 3/4T, there's a huge difference. We all talk about tongue weight, dry weight, loaded weight, GVWR, GCWR and different hitches but one thing that I saw mentioned only once in this post is Wheelbase. For me, that's a factor certainly worth serious consideration. I'd want a long dog with a short tail rather than a short dog with a long tail when it comes to towing.
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Keeping our same TT, we went from an '85 3/4T 4x4 Suburban to an '05 2500HD GMC Quad 4x4 and even thought they are both 3/4T, there's a huge difference. We all talk about tongue weight, dry weight, loaded weight, GVWR, GCWR and different hitches but one thing that I saw mentioned only once in this post is Wheelbase. For me, that's a factor certainly worth serious consideration. I'd want a long dog with a short tail rather than a short dog with a long tail when it comes to towing.
Engine output really stank in the eighties and into the nineties. The sad thing was they were not only low on power but they also were sorry on fuel efficiency as well.

Going from the 85 to the 05 would definitely be a huge difference. That is a heck of a upgrade!
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update on our trip: We traveled from just north of Vernal, UT today on US 191 to Moab, UT. This included a mountain pass with an elevation of 9,114' at the summit. This was the most taxing summit so far in our trip from TX to the Pacific Ocean and back. The 3/4 ton clearly labored to make 35 mph going up the 8 degree road, but shined when coming down the same 8 degree descent. Thus far, we've driven 4700 miles since Aug. 8. Mileage has ranged from 7.5 to 10.6 mpg, depending on driving situation. This likely will be the only trip we'll do like this for the year, but IF we planned to do more similar trips per year, a diesel would be my choice. And, interestingly, diesel fuel in the Pacific NW usually is only 10-20 cents more per gallon than regular fuel, unlike in TX, NM, and other SW states where it runs 40-50 cents more per gallon.
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Mike,

Glad to hear your trip went well!

I agree, if I towed my 8,500lb Eagle through the mountains on a regular basis I'd be looking closely at a diesel as well, but the few times that I travel the mountains my 2500HD 6.0L Vortec may scream a little, but it gets the job done.

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Bob, "screaming" is an apt description for the 6.0L engine running at 4500-5000 RPM at 40-50 MPH in 2nd gear going over a good pass! Highest tranny temp I observed thus far was 230, and that cooled quickly once over the summit. On a side note, we've found that if you don't have reservations for a campground in the National Parks well in advance, you're likely going to have to a) boondock in BLM or other federal lands, or b) land in one of a few commercial RV sites that may
"stack 'em & rack 'em" or get lucky to find something else! We've boondocked for more than a few days, and it's worked out great. Helps to have the Honda 3000 genny in the back of the truck!
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