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Old 04-20-2021, 04:38 PM   #1
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Is F150 King Ranch capable of towing Whitehawk 29BH?

Good Evening All,

I'm considering purchasing a 2021 Whitehawk 29BH, but have some concerns my tow vehicle is not adequate. Any help you can provide will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!

Here is more detail about tow vehicle:

2019 Ford F150 King Ranch Crew cab V6 Ecoboost with Max Tow package
1596 lbs max payload
Total occupant weight 500 lbs

Here is more detail about 29BH
Hitch Weight 830 lbs
Dry/Unloaded Weight 7180 lbs
Gross Vehicle Weight 8500 lbs
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Google “ Can I tow this?” You will find a number of calculators that you can plug numbers into and come up with some accurate results. No offense to anyone here but you get opinions and not facts when you post this type of question.
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While I agree with CAG I will provide my opinion based on some simple rule of thumb math. With only ~1600 payload and ~500 in occupant weight you are going to be out of payload after adding in ~75-100 for a good weight distributing hitch and a likely range for loaded tongue weight ~950-1150 (estimated loaded trailer weight of 8250 and a ~12-15% tongue weight). If you've added any accessories such as a tonneau cover/bed topper, running boards, etc. aftermarket that weight is subtracted from the stickered payload as well meaning you have less available.

Load up your truck with full fuel and all cargo/occupants you would have in it when traveling and then run that over a CAT scale. Subtract that weight from the GVWR of the truck and you'll have an accurate number for payload remaining to support the hitch and tongue weight. Once you know how much payload you would have left for the hitch/tongue you can work out a more realistic GVWR for the trailer that fits within that number.
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I'm considering purchasing a 2021 Whitehawk 29BH, but have some concerns my tow vehicle is not adequate...
I have a 2017 F150 Super Crew Cab with the 3.5 V6 but without the max tow package. I tow a 24RBS, spec'd at 7700 lbs. I tow with full tanks, food, beverages etc, with no problem. I'd guess it weighs in at around 7000 lbs as loaded. With the max tow package and a bit more power than the 2017 model, I think you'll have no problem with your heavier camper. I don't know if the extra length might cause a problem but with a good anti-sway hitch, I think you'll be fine.
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I have a 2017 F150 Super Crew Cab with the 3.5 V6 but without the max tow package. I tow a 24RBS, spec'd at 7700 lbs. I tow with full tanks, food, beverages etc, with no problem. I'd guess it weighs in at around 7000 lbs as loaded. With the max tow package and a bit more power than the 2017 model, I think you'll have no problem with your heavier camper. I don't know if the extra length might cause a problem but with a good anti-sway hitch, I think you'll be fine.
Rule of thumb regarding wheel base is generally 110" wheel base for 20' overall length trailer, then add 4" wheel base for each additional foot of trailer length. The 29BH is 34' 9" overall which would be a recommended wheel base of 166". 2019 F-150 models show 145"-157" wheel bases depending on configuration. In my opinion this would be a bit outside the comfort zone when less than ideal conditions occur - which they often do. The 24RBS is 28' 10" overall length so recommended wheel base of 146" is right in line with F-150 configurations.
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I read recently that Ford has released a VIN based tow capacity calculator. Do a Google search as this will be specific to your VIN and you can input trailer, payload weights and see how you look
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My trailer has a GVWR of 8200lbs and my tongue weight is 950lbs when loaded for the road.

Your F150 will tow that trailer quite well if you have a good WDH. The Ecoboost is a beast.

You need to remember, this is not a 3/4 ton truck, so you are maxing out your truck.

I have 1700lbs of payload, so I have a bit more of a buffer than you do, but not much.

I have put about 20,000km on my truck/trailer combo and I'm very pleased with my setup. I use an Equal-i-zer brand WDH.

You will need to load your trailer carefully, or you will be overloaded.
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Load up your truck with full fuel and all cargo/occupants you would have in it when traveling and then run that over a CAT scale. Subtract that weight from the GVWR of the truck and you'll have an accurate number for payload remaining to support the hitch and tongue weight. Once you know how much payload you would have left for the hitch/tongue you can work out a more realistic GVWR for the trailer that fits within that number.
X2. This is the most accurate way to approach this question. A visit to a CAT or other certified scale will let you know your true available cargo capacity.
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I think one important question (item to consider) that often gets overlooked in the "Can I tow this?" type of question is "where do you plan to travel in your RV?".

I have had many RV's in my life and in a few cases I was towing an RV right at the truck's rated limits, never a problem for local lakes and parks then I decided to cross the Rocky Mountains and ran into problems. I recommend that anyone who plans to travel in the mountains to highly consider a tow vehicle that has ratings that exceed the weight being towed and by a comfortable margin, however towing an RV to the beach and on mostly flat or small rolling hills then towing right at the truck's rating is generally not a problem.

This has been my experience anyway and from many others I have spoken with as this topic comes up more often with other campers when I have camped in the Rockies, as some of the higher mountain passes are certainly hard on an RV Tow Vehicle and\or motorhome. ~CA
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If you tow in the mountains, stick to interstate freeways. They are required to have no more than a 6% grade. Old U.S. highways can be brutal!

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You lost all of your payload with the King Ranch package. Each nicety you add to the truck, takes away payload. The King Ranch has most all of them....
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Good Evening All,

I'm considering purchasing a 2021 Whitehawk 29BH, but have some concerns my tow vehicle is not adequate. Any help you can provide will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!

Here is more detail about tow vehicle:

2019 Ford F150 King Ranch Crew cab V6 Ecoboost with Max Tow package
1596 lbs max payload
Total occupant weight 500 lbs

Here is more detail about 29BH
Hitch Weight 830 lbs
Dry/Unloaded Weight 7180 lbs
Gross Vehicle Weight 8500 lbs
not sure how to read the 1596 payload and the total occupant weight of 500lbs???
is the 500lbs part of the payload, which i would assume it is so if you and yours weigh over 250lbs you are at the truck limit??? for occupancy???

that is a weird way to state you can't be too fat!!!
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IMHO you will have too much trailer for a 1/2 ton truck.
Your brakes will wear faster and may not be adequate?
As already stated, our payload will be over the limit.
But this is just my $0.02 cents worth of opinion.
Good luck and Happy Trails while glamping!
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While I agree with CAG I will provide my opinion based on some simple rule of thumb math. With only ~1600 payload and ~500 in occupant weight you are going to be out of payload after adding in ~75-100 for a good weight distributing hitch and a likely range for loaded tongue weight ~950-1150 (estimated loaded trailer weight of 8250 and a ~12-15% tongue weight). If you've added any accessories such as a tonneau cover/bed topper, running boards, etc. aftermarket that weight is subtracted from the stickered payload as well meaning you have less available.

Load up your truck with full fuel and all cargo/occupants you would have in it when traveling and then run that over a CAT scale. Subtract that weight from the GVWR of the truck and you'll have an accurate number for payload remaining to support the hitch and tongue weight. Once you know how much payload you would have left for the hitch/tongue you can work out a more realistic GVWR for the trailer that fits within that number.
As a clarification for the OP I'd just like to add to this that the listed hitch weight of 830# is based on the mythical published dry weight. Dry weight doesn't exist. The trailer will weigh more the published dry weight when it leaves the factory due to installed options. You will be closer to the GVWR when packed and ready to camp.
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not sure how to read the 1596 payload and the total occupant weight of 500lbs???
is the 500lbs part of the payload, which i would assume it is so if you and yours weigh over 250lbs you are at the truck limit??? for occupancy??? that is a weird way to state you can't be too fat!!!

From the Ford Towing Guide. They don't say anything about the weight of fuel. I assume this includes a full tank but I may be wrong.

"Payload Notes: Maximum capabilities shown are for properly equipped vehicles with required equipment and a 150-lb. driver. Weight of additional options, equipment, passengers and cargo must be deducted from this weight"
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Good Evening All,

I'm considering purchasing a 2021 Whitehawk 29BH, but have some concerns my tow vehicle is not adequate. Any help you can provide will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!

Here is more detail about tow vehicle:

2019 Ford F150 King Ranch Crew cab V6 Ecoboost with Max Tow package
1596 lbs max payload
Total occupant weight 500 lbs

Here is more detail about 29BH
Hitch Weight 830 lbs
Dry/Unloaded Weight 7180 lbs
Gross Vehicle Weight 8500 lbs


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From the Ford Towing Guide. They don't say anything about the weight of fuel. I assume this includes a full tank but I may be wrong.

"Payload Notes: Maximum capabilities shown are for properly equipped vehicles with required equipment and a 150-lb. driver. Weight of additional options, equipment, passengers and cargo must be deducted from this weight"
The yellow payload sticker on the drivers door jamb is a based on how the truck was built at the factory with a full tank of fuel. It doesn’t include the driver or any after market accessories such as a tonneau cover, spray in liner, etc.
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The likely towed hitch weight will be close to 1k with hitch. 500 pound occupancy load will leave no margin in payload capacity.
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I have similar specs with my 2020 Ram Rebel and I wanted that white hawk 29bh bad. We settled for the Jay Feather 27 bhb just to be safe since it was about 1000 pounds lighter (6600 dry) and not kill the truck since it was new. I know I’m close to payload capacity every time but it pulls no problem. Wind is a issue as I learned in the Adirondacks so just slow it down if you feel it Good Luck
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I have a 2019 F150 Lariat. The yellow door sticker says 1670lb payload. There is a caveat to the yellow sticker and that is your gross vehicle weight and the axle weights. I added an aftermarket spray in bed liner and a plain roll-up tonneau cover. When all was said and done I had 1360 lb (with me in the truck and 36 gallons of fuel) left for payload. With a 100 lb hitch, my wife and 2 small dogs we are very close to being maxed on GVWR, but not remotely close on GCWR or max trailer weight. I will admit I don't have much issue towing, but then again, in decent weather I park in the right lane at 60-62, unless the wind picks up. My only issue with the 3.5 is engine braking, but we will be moving to a 5er and a heavier truck in a year or two. Happy Camping!!
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