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Old 10-10-2014, 12:09 PM   #21
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I towed a hybrid that was 4500 dry and my half ton with 5.3L and 4.10 gears was not liking the hills of central NY at all. I think its capacity was low 8K and I would not want to be anywhere near that..
My 1/2 ton with the 5.3 and 3.42's is rated for 9600 lbs and tows my 29BHS just fine. Been in the hills and on the flats.
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I pulled more trailer than I should have with 1/2 ton's for a bunch of years. We did ok with it. I learned not to "beat" my truck by buying a few transmissions. I agree with locking out 6th or highest gear and don't use cruise control. Drive and feel and don't beat the horses.
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I read though a lot of the post but did not see this question.

We pull our 30 foot DSRE with a Tahoe 5.3 tow package 3.43 in tow mode. It will barely pull it on flat ground. If you set the cruise at 65 MPH or above it will not hold it. It slows enough that it has to shift down to regain the set speed then shifts back up. The process never stops. If we drive 60 MPH on flat ground it pulls OK but at 60 MPH on the interstate will get you ran over. This started the day we pulled it home. Is the term 1/2 ton towable is a stretch. WE knew before we bought the TT a new TV was in the future because we go to the West Coast or Rockies ever year. We get around 8 MPG at 60 MPH if we increase up to 65 MPH it drops to 6.5 MPG So now we are looking for a 3/4.

So what I am wondering is am the only with this problem?
Does the Ford Eco Boos do this
What about the Ram Hemi does it do this?
Does the newer Chevys have this problem?
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The closer you are to your vehicles towing capacity the worse off you will be. If what your are hauling is 80% or less of what you could pull you probably have the right truck trailer combination. My Jimmy HD,CC, 4x4, 6.0 gas is rated 13K. I could be pulling 9500, trailer 7100 gross, cap, DW, fuel and all Camping Related Accessories Present (CRAP for short!) pulls ok, stops and handles ok rides good. mpg stinks- a squeak over 7.
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Since I own and have towed with both of the same model year, my 2 cents worth are in the link below on the differences in the 1500/2500 in regards to the trucks themselves and the towing experience each provided with my 28BHS. And yes the term 1/2 and 3/4 ton are obsolete as my "3/4'' ton truck has over a 1.5 ton payload.

https://www.jaycoowners.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=11464
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of course a bigger truck is going to tow better and the fuel economy not towing is going to be worse the bigger you go.

An MDT is going to out tow a 3/4 ton or 1 ton all day.

But is it necessary? maybe to some and I guarantee there are 3/4 tons and 1 tons out there overloaded

Like has been said..it depends on the person behind the wheel only.

Every one might cringe at my setup and feel extremely nervous driving down the road...me?...

I love it. One hand on the wheel , relaxed and cruising. Am I blowing the doors off people?..NO...wouldn't go any faster if I could. But I travel down the interstate doing 65 without a problem...maybe 50 up the steep hills but oh well....no worries..there is always the top eventually.

Besides I love the sound of that Japanese V6 blasting out revs at 4000.

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One thing I am quite sure of....if there was a limit on tow vehicles and you needed a 3/4 ton or 1 ton to buy a 6000 lb and up trailer or these ones advertised as "1/2 ton towable" the RV industry would not exist.

people would give it up.
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The closer you are to your vehicles towing capacity the worse off you will be. If what your are hauling is 80% or less of what you could pull you probably have the right truck trailer combination. My Jimmy HD,CC, 4x4, 6.0 gas is rated 13K. I could be pulling 9500, trailer 7100 gross, cap, DW, fuel and all Camping Related Accessories Present (CRAP for short!) pulls ok, stops and handles ok rides good. mpg stinks- a squeak over 7.
When we were in the market to buy a trailer with our TV (see below) we were constantly told that we should buy a TT that was 80% of the weight capacity of our TV. That is why we bought a 19H instead of another model that might have generally suited us but was way over that magic 80% number.
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There is no such 80 percent rule. I have worked in the auto industry my whole life and no automotive engineer that I know of ever said 80 percent was max
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I guarantee there are 3/4 tons and 1 tons out there overloaded
Of course. I see it around here all the time. A 48 foot flatbed trailer loaded to the sky with round bails is pretty damn heavy.
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I do enjoy pulling 12K lbs, staying in cruise, under 2000 rpm, going uphill at 60 mph and sometimes it drops to 5'th but not always.....But that's just me.
But like I said you can pull with anything and I pretty much have over the past 35 years. Common sense is not all that common, but useful if you have it.

I will say again if you beat on your TV you will be spending money on like they write books about. Heat kills and work = heat.....hard work = more heat.
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There are some dodge and ford 3500 rated over 30,000 GVW...
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