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Originally Posted by Falcon67
My personal opinion is that the buyer should school themselves about tow ratings, GVWR, GCVW, tongue weights, WD hitches, etc, etc before they buy anything with a hitch on it. All the info is available, in my case I use the Ford Fleet publications for the trucks. Most trailer ratings are "dry", so best to remember that water is 8.3 lbs/gallon and everything you stick in the box has a weight.
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No argument, but there’s two significant challenges I see:
1) Those of us that are aware of what all the towing alphabet soup means usually forget or underestimate how much they’ve learned and how long it took them to acquire that knowledge. It can be overwhelming to a newbie and some people aren’t that mechanical to start off with. Worse, some can’t even be bothered to learn or come to acknowledge towing over capacity can be very dangerous for everyone near them.
2) Dealers should stop quoting empty weight which we all know is meaningless from most contexts, instead start quoting the GVWR and high estimated pin/tongue weight based off GVWR and strongly encourage the newbie get the rig weighed.
Quoting the empty weight is extremely misleading, as most TT/5ers, and even many driveables, are going down the road near or at capacity anyway. The dealers and especially salespeople are also the smaller group to educate about those things, so at least they can start newbies off on a course for success while they do acquire the knowledge above and it’ll protect the rest of us from those that won’t learn.
I’m not throwing shade at anyone here (e.g., newbies, we were all there at some point) except maybe the salespeople who are dangerous because they don’t know enough to know they have no idea what they’re talking about and the dealers that don’t educate their employees on what could be a life/death situation.