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Old 03-22-2012, 08:26 PM   #11
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I towed with a mini van (Grand Caravan and Windstar) for 6 years. I towed a 3000 pound PU. I would not want to tow my 17Z with either of the vans.
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Old 03-22-2012, 08:53 PM   #12
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I have a 2005 Pontiac Montana SV6, 200 horse power full size minivan. I will install a class 3 hitch, sway bar, weight distrabution bar and of course brake contoller. I will also install a trany cooler. Two rv dealers say should be no problem and my GM Mechanic said install a trany cooler and take my time driving. Im a little concerned to say the least, I guess once everything is installed and if it doesnt work then I park the trailer at a camp site for the season and buy a new vehicle next year
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Old 03-23-2012, 07:27 AM   #13
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casinomark- Check to see if your tires rated for the weight you will be towing . You might also check the stickers on the vans drivers door jam for what it is built to carry just to be on the safe side. Larry
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Old 03-24-2012, 12:40 AM   #14
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We just picked up this exact trailer on Wed.

We have a 2011 Dodge Grand Caravan, 3.6 V6, 283hp, 260ftlbs torque, WD Hitch, Trans Cooler and P2 Break controller.

On the half our drive from the dealer home, I think it was about all the van would do. Won't stay in top gear with any grade at all. Trans is hunting all the time.

I'm thinking it will be fine.. but slow on the hills.
Cross winds didn't seem to be an issue, no issue breaking.

We'll make it a short trip to a local camp site once the season opens here in May and see how we do. I would not recommend a trip to the White Mountains with this set up.
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Old 03-24-2012, 11:18 AM   #15
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Have a safe trip, and enjoy your new camper.
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Old 03-24-2012, 11:39 AM   #16
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On the half our drive from the dealer home, I think it was about all the van would do. Won't stay in top gear with any grade at all. Trans is hunting all the time.

I'm thinking it will be fine..

Those 2 statements in the same post don't seem to make sense....just sayin'. Sounds to me like your tow vehicle is waaaay under powered/equipped for what you're asking it to do. Set a few bucks aside for tranny repairs and some extra liability insurance and you'll be fine It is possible that in the event of an accident you could be found negligent if you have exceeded the GVWR, GCVWR,GAWCGR, GMCVGWR, or any of the other ratings.

Check out the "Can I Tow This?" post in the jokes and humor forum.
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Old 03-24-2012, 02:18 PM   #17
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I have a x17z Toyota Sienna and do not have any troubles. I have heard for some reason you do not need to add the weight in the van to the total tow weight but I do try and pack as light as possible anyway. I live in MN so there are not any mountains here and very few hills worth talking about so I have never given it a real test. You can PM me with any questions.
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I remember being in the exact same place last year and I remember all the those negative comments and being really disappointed. This is suppose to be an exciting time for Mark and his family. He is asking for advice lets help him out by explaining our experiences but lets keep it positive.

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From just the little I see, Mark's van maxes out at 3500 lbs towing capacity... same as the GVWR of th x17Z. That would have me concerned but I would want to know more. What is the GCVWR? What is the tongue weight? How much can the axles tolerate, etc.?

What folks are trying to caution about is that if you exceed your safe towing limits, not only will you put yourself in the position of having to defend yourself should an accident occur but you might also be potentially putting your family's safety at risk. Nobody wants to hear this when they're all excited to get out there on the road with their new camper. But Mark is concerned also and that's why he asked the question in the first place.
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Old 03-24-2012, 05:38 PM   #20
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I have a 17Z and for the past 2 seasons towed it with a 97 Grand Cherokee with the 220hp v8 and tow package. Worked ok, but I didn't push it much over 55-60 mph on the highway. The biggest issues arose with long accending grades and dang cross winds. Even the little 17Z is 18 ft long, 9.5 ft tall, 8 ft wide, and a good wind can test your driving skills.
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