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Old 09-06-2016, 01:13 PM   #21
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One thing among many things to take into consideration is that you base the TV on the TT's gross weight not the dry weight or some number(weight) in-between
The explorer may be comfortable but its not the TV for the job The 350 is more than capable but may be uncomfortable A good alternative would be a nice expedition with a 5.4 and 3.73 axel The 03 to 06 4X4 are rated at 8650 lb towing capacity and are very comfortable to drive
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Old 09-06-2016, 01:16 PM   #22
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In looking at the weights, you have to be aware of what year Explorer. I think it was in 2002 that Ford switched from using the Ranger Chassis to building a chassis specifically for the Explorer. That change was in response to all the rollover problems that Explorers pre 2002 had. It got so bad that to this day U-Haul won't rent you a trailer if you drive an explorer (any year - they never learned to differentiate by year).

The 2003 Chassis Explorer with the big V8, 2wd and trailer towing package that I had up until this year would tow 6k very comfortably. We towed a 5.5k Sunline 20ft TT all over the country and never felt uncomfortable or unsafe. I did have to rebuild the transmission at 120k miles - but the mechanic told me that specific Ford Tranny with its Aluminum case almost never made it past 120k even if you didn't tow. I only traded it because I was upgrading to a 5th wheel.

However, my concern is that this Explorer probably does not have a trailer tow package (tranny cooler, lower ratio rear-end, heavier springs, larger alternator/battery. The Trailer Tow package came with a 4 inch hitch receiver automatically.
Also, my vehicle had the big V8. Not sure how capable the V6 is at pulling.

Is trading them both in on something better suited an option?
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Wow. I can't believe I'm reading this on THIS forum.

You have a truck way above and beyond the requirements for the trailer you have. In a land where most 'get by' with 'just enough truck', I for one would be envious of you. Tow w/ the truck. You're so over-capacity; most would kill to be able to be in your shoes !!!

Esp. if the Explorer is to be your daily driver. Let it do that. Use the truck for the real work; even if its not going to be work hard b/c your so lucky.
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Old 09-06-2016, 01:57 PM   #24
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In looking at the weights, you have to be aware of what year Explorer. I think it was in 2002 that Ford switched from using the Ranger Chassis to building a chassis specifically for the Explorer. That change was in response to all the rollover problems that Explorers pre 2002 had. It got so bad that to this day U-Haul won't rent you a trailer if you drive an explorer (any year - they never learned to differentiate by year).

The 2003 Chassis Explorer with the big V8, 2wd and trailer towing package that I had up until this year would tow 6k very comfortably. We towed a 5.5k Sunline 20ft TT all over the country and never felt uncomfortable or unsafe. I did have to rebuild the transmission at 120k miles - but the mechanic told me that specific Ford Tranny with its Aluminum case almost never made it past 120k even if you didn't tow. I only traded it because I was upgrading to a 5th wheel.

However, my concern is that this Explorer probably does not have a trailer tow package (tranny cooler, lower ratio rear-end, heavier springs, larger alternator/battery. The Trailer Tow package came with a 4 inch hitch receiver automatically.
Also, my vehicle had the big V8. Not sure how capable the V6 is at pulling.

Is trading them both in on something better suited an option?
I'm not sure which label applies to the chassis under my 2002 Explorer, but I will describe what is under there:

Box channel frame from bumper to bumper
McPherson struts at all 4 corners
Differentials bolted to the frame with half shafts to the wheels
4 wheel disk brakes with a diabolically impossible-to-service parking brake

Can you tell from that description if I have a 'old style' or 'improved style' chassis?

Considering how tight this truck is capable of turning (it is fantastic in parking lots), I'm not surprised at it's potential for rollover.
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Spend the little $$$ to set them both up and use as needed. Nothing like a spare just in case and when the time comes to replace one or the other, then you will have a new minor dilemma.
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Wow. I can't believe I'm reading this on THIS forum.
You have a truck way above and beyond the requirements for the trailer you have. In a land where most 'get by' with 'just enough truck', I for one would be envious of you. Tow w/ the truck. You're so over-capacity; most would kill to be able to be in your shoes !!!
Esp. if the Explorer is to be your daily driver. Let it do that. Use the truck for the real work; even if its not going to be work hard b/c your so lucky.
Embarrassment of riches, you say?

You wouldn't be so pushy about using my F350 as a tow vehicle if you tried to spend more than an hour in the current seats! Or with the exhaust noise it had until today.

My situation is that my F350 was purchased as a chore truck and has filled that role quite will since the fall of 2013.

SWMBO's 2009 Tacoma is getting a bit long-in-the-tooth, so I have to do something. Plus getting the settlement for FNPOS meant I had to do several somethings.

I absolutely refuse to buy-in to a Ray Crock designed brand new truck. If I am going to spend serious money on a new truck, it will be what I want, not what "the marketing department believe the general truck-buying public are willing to put up with".

I have my dream-truck mapped out*. But not the $30K-$40K that it'll take build it from a mix of new/used/rebuilt parts. So, for the next couple of years I will "make do" with what I have on hand.

Between no car payment, no collision insurance, no more alimony (as of 10/31/16) and finish paying off the trailer in May '17. I'll be able to set aside the cash to make my dream truck come true in 2018 or early '19.

Then, there will be no question about what truck to pull the trailer with!



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Spend the little $$$ to set them both up and use as needed. Nothing like a spare just in case and when the time comes to replace one or the other, then you will have a new minor dilemma.
Sorry, nope, won't happen. The V6 Explorer won't safely pull my 19RD.

All efforts to civilize the F350 are going forward as practicable.

All compromises on the Explorer will be towards making it as reliable as possible.
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So you don't have a dilemma now.
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One thing among many things to take into consideration is that you base the TV on the TT's gross weight not the dry weight or some number(weight) in-between
The explorer may be comfortable but its not the TV for the job The 350 is more than capable but may be uncomfortable A good alternative would be a nice expedition with a 5.4 and 3.73 axel The 03 to 06 4X4 are rated at 8650 lb towing capacity and are very comfortable to drive
Yup, the Explorer is inadequate. I misread the documentation.

Definitely, an SUV on a 1/2 ton chassis would be a near-perfect fit with the 19RD.

However, I have an F350 that is totally paid for and won't take too much to make it fill another role for a couple of years.

Then I will commission a custom car/truck shop to assemble my dream truck.
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So you don't have a dilemma now.
None whatsoever!

Because of the informed advice from the members of this forum.

Thanks again.
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