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Old 09-09-2016, 08:27 AM   #41
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The F350. No contest. The crap I've seen with people towing with Explorers would settle this quickly. Again..F350.
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Old 09-09-2016, 08:41 AM   #42
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Mike, good choice with the F350. When we bought our 19RD in 2012, we had a 2004 Tundra with a 4.7L V8, it pulled the Fleetwood Arcadia pop up just fine, but showed it's anemia pulling a TT, especially on the thruway heading to Lake George. LONG hills! That's when we decided to get something with more HP.
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Old 09-09-2016, 08:58 AM   #43
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The F350. No contest. The crap I've seen with people towing with Explorers would settle this quickly. Again..F350.
It was settled the instant I was shown the correct entry in Ford's towing guide for my Explorer.

It's real fun charging ahead when you think you have all the facts. Then find out you've got a couple of them gnorw.
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Mike, good choice with the F350. When we bought our 19RD in 2012, we had a 2004 Tundra with a 4.7L V8, it pulled the Fleetwood Arcadia pop up just fine, but showed it's anemia pulling a TT, especially on the thruway heading to Lake George. LONG hills! That's when we decided to get something with more HP.
I don't know if I'd really call the F-350 a 'choice'. It's the least of several evils:
- Keep abusing SWMBO's Tacoma
- Modify and then really abuse the Explorer
- Finance $60K on a new 1/2-ton truck that I won't like
- Build my Dream Truck (same $ as a new one, but I'll like it)
- Throw a couple of $k at my chore truck to make it an overkill tow vehicle.

Once I have the cash to pull it off, (Q3-4 2017) I will be commissioning my Dream Truck.
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Old 09-11-2016, 07:42 PM   #45
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If you think the Taco was "screaming" at 3500 rpm's, you won't like the way the F350's 5.4 sounds when it downshifts to pull the hills! Gas truck engines today are not making any useable power until you get to around 3000 rpms unless you grab an Eco-boost. I bet the taco would pull better if you locked out OD and ran in direct drive 1:1. Most autos lock the TC in 1:1 gear whether it be 3rd or 4th on a 5 or 6 speed tranny.

What gear ratio does the F350 have in it?
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I don't know if I'd really call the F-350 a 'choice'. It's the least of several evils:
- Keep abusing SWMBO's Tacoma
- Modify and then really abuse the Explorer
- Finance $60K on a new 1/2-ton truck that I won't like
- Build my Dream Truck (same $ as a new one, but I'll like it)
- Throw a couple of $k at my chore truck to make it an overkill tow vehicle.

Once I have the cash to pull it off, (Q3-4 2017) I will be commissioning my Dream Truck.
Compared to your taco... And the exploder... You won't like an f350 ... Jesus h.... I don't think I understand. Enlighten me please. Seriously. It's just the money right? You could tow the taco, the camper, and your home with the 350. Not enough? This 'dream truck' is less than 60k and can do more?? I'll buy one too... Hook me up. You can tow well over 24000 pounds with the diesel and the right package. Jayco does not make a TT you couldn't easily tow with a 350. I don't think anyone does.
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Compared to your taco... And the exploder... You won't like an f350 ... Jesus h.... I don't think I understand. Enlighten me please. Seriously. It's just the money right? You could tow the taco, the camper, and your home with the 350. Not enough? This 'dream truck' is less than 60k and can do more?? I'll buy one too... Hook me up. You can tow well over 24000 pounds with the diesel and the right package. Jayco does not make a TT you couldn't easily tow with a 350. I don't think anyone does.
As far at the capabilities of my F-350; it has proven itself more than adequate for every job I have ever thrown at it.

I think you misunderstand my statement of "won't like a brand-new truck". I am currently very annoyed by the over engineered cheaply built federally mandated crap on the showroom floors.

It seems that the Ray Kroc business model is where the automobile industry has gone. I do not like McDonald's. I don't like their idea of what makes a meal. I certainly don't want to buy a rolling computer. Electronic gadgets that don't make the ride any safer. ABS, Traction Control and 27 airbags are no substitute for attentive driving!

What I want in a truck is a 1/2-ton SUV, 4x4, manual transmission powered by an I6 turbo-Diesel. Seen any of those at the dealer, lately? Once the cash comes together (Q3-ish 2017) I will be commissioning a custom builder to assemble my dream truck.

But for now, I am shoehorning my chore truck into another role. Since having the exhaust system fixed properly, the fuel consumption seems to be way down and the comfort of driving the thing is way up!

Just have to find a set of seats from a King Ranch edition and it'll be all set.
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One doesn't need to say they are an expert, yet sometimes they make themselves appear to be an expert just by statements that they make. Such as stating how many miles you have driven in those 40 years or stating that "It has served me well at the office since I wrote the software they use everyday."


Its not what you say but how its said and most importantly in how its perceived.
You most likely know what you mean when you say something but the person that hears what you said takes it for what they think you meant.


Yes bad habits are hard to break.
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Its not what you say but how its said and most importantly in how its perceived.

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Truer words were never shared.

Perception is so much a part of being human.

Simple concepts like "Fact", "Truth" and "Observation" become muddled way too easily.
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I have read the entire thread, and therefore know that you have decided (wisely I might add) to use the F350 as your TV.

In regards to towing, I have always been one to go hunting for deer with a howitzer so to speak, mostly due to the fact that I make my living by pushing the envelope of weight down the highway (Professional driver specializing in heavy haul equipment, often times running down the road with a gross weight upwards of 220,000lb)

My last trailer was a 21' triple E, that I towed with my 08 F350 diesel. Needless to say I would have to look in the mirrors to confirm that I was actually still hitched to the bloody thing.
Now that I have upgraded to a larger trailer, and am right on the limits of my GCVWR, I find myself thinking about buying a class 8 tractor (Read: Semi truck), to turn into a single drive with bunk and use that as my dedicated TV.

There are things you'll never wish you had less of.
Explosives, money, ammunition, horsepower, and tow capacity.

Is the only comfort issues you have with your 1 ton the seats?
If so, that can be easily solved with a trip to a local wrecker, or even following some of the facebook truck groups in your area.
Find yourself a set of seats out of a Lariat. The 2003 body will accept at least up to 2010, if not 2015 interior with little to no modification.
If its ride quality, well... that's part of the 1 ton tax (more expensive parts, fuel mileage, etc)
Because you are well within the limits of your GCVWR, and RAWR, you could have a spring shop pull one of the leafs from the rear pack, essentially turning your truck into an F250.
If you are really mechanically inclined, the 2008+ years have a much longer spring pack in them, which translates to a softer ride while still maintaining RAWR. This requires the box to come off, the original spring hangers to be cut off, and relocated.
There are options to make the truck you should be using more livable.
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