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Old 03-04-2014, 10:09 AM   #1
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My set up, opinions

I plan on towing 27 DSRL with my 2011 F-150 3.5 Turbo Ecoboost super crew short bed 145" wheelbase.... the trailer should be around 5900-6000 dry. I intend to keep it at 66-6700 lb loaded.

I weighed my truck with me in it and full of gas at 5800lb.. add the wife kid and dog (320lb)=6120lb the trucks gvwr is 7100lb - 6120lb= 980 left for payload/tongue weight and any extras. I am hoping to be legal, we will see.

I would think at 6700lb I could get with battery and equalizer hitch I should still be able to stay under 980lb?

Even at 6800lb if loading heavier 12% would be 816lb.... luckily some of the kitchen weight is at the rear.

I understand an f-250 or 2500 would be better... but right now this is what I have. If it feels unsafe or undo able.. it will be time to trade/sell. I hope not as I love the truck.

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Old 03-04-2014, 11:12 AM   #2
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I started with a similar combination. 6500 TT loaded = 850 TW. Pulled it with both a Tahoe and Silverado 1500 5.3 3.73 4 speed. We had me, DW, 6 & 4 y/o, and a 90lb dog. Both pulled it, pickup was better than SUV, 4 speed left a lot to be desired, 6 would have been much better. We were right at the limits, maybe 100-150 lbs to spare. Never felt unsafe, just uncomfortable enough to make the 2500 plunge.

Obviously the 2500 is much better, however had we not camped in the mountains so much and not planned to get a heavier TT I likely would have purchased a newer 6 speed 1500 pickup.
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Old 03-04-2014, 11:16 AM   #3
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You don't say what the rear axle weight was. For me (towing with an '03 Expedition) the critical weight was the rear axle, I was WELL below GCWR but was within 200-300# of the GAWR-rear. Your F-150 rear axle probably has a larger capacity than my Expe but...
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Old 03-04-2014, 11:59 AM   #4
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Redhorse1 .. I have not hooked the trailer yet. These are just preliminary weights. I got a great deal on this 2013 27DSRL $16.5K older couple had it but wanted a bedroom slide. I had to jump on it and will pick it up Saturday, I added road-master suspension last weekend to help with the rear sag etc.. I will give it a shot and then hit the scale when loaded and take a short trip.

I believe (Nighthawk) member of forum, has the trailer loaded at 6600lb with tongue weight of 740 after all said and done.. and pulling with Tundra. I know I have the muscle, just would like to be at or under legal weights.

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Old 03-04-2014, 01:02 PM   #5
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hey Mini,
You said that you had weighed just the truck. If it was a CAT type scale you should have the weights on the individual axles which would let you know the cargo you can load on the rear axle. As long as your tongue is less than the rear GAWR minus the actual weight on your rear axle you should be good.
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Old 03-04-2014, 01:04 PM   #6
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That'd be 11.2% worth of tongue weight. Were I him, I'd be shifting more things around to get the tongue heavier. Its within the 10-15% rule of thumb, but a travel trailer will almost ALWAYS tow better with MORE tongue weight assuming your TV can handle it.
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Old 03-04-2014, 02:39 PM   #7
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Yeah.. it was a cat scale, I will have to go to my truck on break and check it, have it in my console.
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Old 03-04-2014, 02:52 PM   #8
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OK.. the front was 3140 the rear was 2660, this is without the wife kid and dog, add 325lb for them=2985lb My rear GAWR is 3850lb - 2985= 865lb of potential tongue weight. The tongue weight will more and likely be aroud 745-800 lbs.

It looks that it's going to be close.. but I would think still fairly safe. I know some dont pay much attention to these things, but I will feel better AT LEAST knowing that I am close going down the road.

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Old 03-04-2014, 03:26 PM   #9
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I'd bet when you weigh with the wife, kid & dog the weight will get split between the front and rear axles so you may have a little more available for the tongue. But don't forget to include the weight of the hitch (mine was around 80#) to your rear axle.
I worried about my weight until I visited the CAT. I'm also a bit OCD about the tire pressures and my speed while towing.
Before I visited the CAT I knew that my weight was good, after the visit I KNEW my weight was good.

Side story: we were taking our first trip in the new 5th and I planned the stop at the CAT on the way. After I made my 2nd pass over the scales I asked the bride to go pay and fetch the weigh tickets while I'm hooking up. She hops in and down the road we go. She's looking over the tickets and on the second one (truck only) she reads 47,xxx# (or some other BIG number) on the trailer axle. So I figure she's looking at the wrong line or something. No big deal, right? Turns out while I was unhooking a commercial rig gets weighed and we got his ticket.
Can only imagine if he gets pulled over by the Highway Patrol and he shows them his brand new weight ticket and it shows 4400# steer, 3180# drive and 0# trailer. So the HP officer says, "Son, I was born at night but not last night. You're comin' with me."
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Old 03-04-2014, 05:38 PM   #10
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lol yeah that would be something...

Well I hope I am under instead of over... I will update once I get her home. I will still have to load the trailer and weigh on my first trip soon thereafter. Thanks for all the feedback everyone, it is appreciated.

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