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Old 01-28-2015, 12:53 PM   #1
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My TV and TT - a good match?

Hi all,

I'm new to forum posts so I hope my etiquette is fine in starting this thread.

My family owns a 2014 F150 with the following stats:

V8 (we were scared off of the ecoboost because of some problems we read about it)
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heavy duty payload package (to help with tongue weight) - makes GVWR 8200 lbs
GCWR = 15300 lbs
front GAWR = 4000ish lbs
rear GAWR = 4800 lbs
max trailer towing = 9200 lbs (though who's pulling a TT with a single 150 lbs driver?)

We're looking at picking up a Jayco 26BH this weekend with a dry weight of about 5000 lbs (elite package so weighs a bit more) and a max GVWR of 7000 lbs.

All of the math I've done says we're good, but I just wanted to check with some folks with experience before we finalize the purchase. Do the TT and TV match OK? We have 2 small kids (who will eventually be giants) and we love the layout of the 26 BH.

Also, we know we need an equalizer hitch (same as weight distributing hitch I've been told) - do we need sway control also?

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Old 01-28-2015, 01:00 PM   #2
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There are a lot of people towing bigger TT with a lot less, you will be fine. Get sway control. I don't use it since my rig is very stable, but it is better to have it and not need it than the other way around.
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Old 01-28-2015, 01:02 PM   #3
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Welcome to the forum. Your numbers on that combo look good to me.
Yes you DO need a WD hitch and sway control.
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Old 01-28-2015, 01:21 PM   #4
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Also, we know we need an equalizer hitch (same as weight distributing hitch I've been told) - do we need sway control also?

Thanks,

Bob
Welcome to the forum, Bob.

Yes, you do need sway control.

The naming is confusing, but there are various manufacturers of weight distributing hitches (aka WDH). One of them has the brand name of Equal-i-zer. That is a brand that many of us, but NOT all, have and use. That brand's E4 model incorporates an excellent anti-sway design; no need for additional components.

Read articles in this forum regarding sway and you'll learn about weighing your TV and TT and the importance of tire construction and inflation pressures to combat sway.
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We have basically the same set up as you (I have a 5.4L and my GVWR is a little lower then yours. We haul our 20BH all over the country every summer. We pass people going over the Rockies, the Grapevine. You'll have no problem. Just watch how much you put in the back of the truck, the towing is fine, but you'll run out of Cargo Capacity faster then you will GVWR.

My numbers according to FORD are close to as yours, but then they add this thing on the driver's side door. Which kind of screws all those numbers up. I did the math once and it would almost be impossible to tow 9800lbs with my rig.
All I'm saying is watch how much cargo you put in the bed of the truck.
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Old 01-28-2015, 01:49 PM   #6
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Get sway control. I don't use it since my rig is very stable, but it is better to have it and not need it than the other way around.
I used to use a sway control bar too, but found I didn't need it either. My trailer is 6 feet shorter then his though.

All we use is the weight distribution bars.
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Old 01-28-2015, 04:24 PM   #7
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I think you should be good. Did you consider the 26BHS? We had a 26BH but just upgraded to the slide model. Boy, what a difference in space. We love it. Either way, you will love your Jayco!
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I would expect your rear axle to weigh in around 3000#. If you load up the new TT to 6000# (just a guess) your tongue weight will be around 900# (15%). The Rear GAWR is 4800# which would leave you 900# remaining in cargo.
You could visit the CAT Scale fueled up and all campers on board and you will KNOW the weight on the rear axle. Estimate the weight of "stuff" you will put in the bed and calculate the remaining cargo and back-calculate a max TT weight. That'll give you an idea how big a TT you can safely tow. All this knowledge for around $10! Like JBP says you will probably run out of cargo before you hit the GVWR.
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I would expect your rear axle to weigh in around 3000#. If you load up the new TT to 6000# (just a guess) your tongue weight will be around 900# (15%). The Rear GAWR is 4800# which would leave you 900# remaining in cargo.
You could visit the CAT Scale fueled up and all campers on board and you will KNOW the weight on the rear axle. Estimate the weight of "stuff" you will put in the bed and calculate the remaining cargo and back-calculate a max TT weight. That'll give you an idea how big a TT you can safely tow. All this knowledge for around $10! Like JBP says you will probably run out of cargo before you hit the GVWR.
The CAT Scale is your friend.
Hi,

Thanks for all of the good advice so far.

RedHorse1, when you say 900# remaining in cargo (the math sounds about right to me) do you mean passengers, or just stuff we want to put in the bed of the truck? We weren't thinking or putting anything in the bed of the truck - I assumed we'd put everything we wanted to take with us in the trailer itself. Either way, your advice about visiting a scale with the truck fully loaded with passengers and fuel sounds good. Need to find a good place to do that near Vancouver BC.

ddrueckh, we did look at the 26BHS. It's heavier though, so it gets closer to the max for some of the numbers. Also, we're a little slide shy because we're worried about leaks (we're the cautious sort). We're aware that the 26BH is a little "tight in the middle" but maybe that'll discourage us from wanting to hang out in there all day when we're camping - it'll be tempting with it being all shiny and new

Thanks again everyone, any other suggestions or comments are welcome.
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