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Old 09-25-2017, 09:07 AM   #21
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Honestly, I think you're fine. Just not a ton of wiggle room.
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Old 09-26-2017, 08:56 AM   #22
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Hi There!

I'm new, dumb and kinda lazy. Now that we got the honest part out of the way.

We are interested in the a Jayco TT, most likely a lite series. Family of 4 with two on the way! So while we are thinking lite we will need as much room as possible.

My concern, problem, question is we have a vehicle that we absolutely love. Its also paid off so thats awesome too! But we are not quite sure if it what size ( dry weight ) of TT it could tow. Or if we should give up on it since its a SUV and look for a truck with higher tow capabilities.

We have sadly been to two dealers in my area. One didn't even look at the vehicle just said the towing guide says 6k lbs it will "tow anything!". The second place had a " tow specialist " and they looked at the numbers online + in the door jam read the labels then told me something similar as the first guy it will tow anything up to 5k lbs.

I am not familiar with figuring this out, but I do not trust the dealers just because I know their gig at the end of the day is to sell me something. So I thought to come here and ask.

Looking online myself I realize I am going to most likely need to install :
- Electronic brake controller
- weight distor
- airlift helper bags
* I said most likely bc other places online I've read mention these are great ideas.

Heres the TV info :

2009 Nissan Pathfinder V6 SE 4x4 with a factory installed two package and a factory trans cooler.

* Ive attached 3 pics of the labels within the door jam on this vehicle. I realize they aren't amazing pics.

The Tongue weight for a v6 pathfinder = 600lbs

The Combined weight of occupants, cargo shouldn't exceed = 1102 lbs

GVWR = 6113lbs

Again looking online and what I found on how to calculate this all I was thinking we might be more then fine with a TT that doesn't exceed a dry weight of 3500lbs. Please though correct me if I'm wrong.

Any help, guidance welcomed!
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Old 09-26-2017, 10:22 AM   #23
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The camper you are looking at is pretty light. I think you'll probably be ok, but you aren't going to want to tow it up the sierra's fully loaded

What we did our first year is towed with what we had. When I bought my 150 I had no intentions of towing with it, I ended up with the max tow package because it was on the truck we ended up buying, anyway... We were barely within our stickered limits lightly loaded. There were several times when we couldn't take a friend with us, less firewood than we wanted, tanks almost always empty, etc.

Your scaled weights are really all that matters. It's pretty awesome you went to the scale... a lot of people don't.

Running the math (just to confirm or deny the other numbers I've seen on the thread)

Your GVWR according to your sticker is 6113
Your TV loaded, un hitched, weighs .....5364
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= 749 lbs of available payload.

The *dry* hitch weight of the camper you are looking at is only 280 lbs.

You could fully load that camper up to it's own max weight (by adding 620 lbs of 'stuff' in the camper, and you would still be under 750 lbs on the hitch. Editing this post to add something I just realized - The hitch on your truck says '600 lbs' max, but it doesn't indicate if adding a weight distributing hitch changes this. On most Tow vehicles, there is a different rating on the receiver if you are towing with a WDH, and I recommend that you use one Point stands, I don't see you putting even 600 lbs on that hitch, unless you are over loading your camper.

It looks like you have a cushion of about 200 lbs to play around with, with the trailer included, with your receiver on your SUV being the only potential problem. The only thing I would probably look at in more detail is your rear axle weight rating. If most of your weight in your SUV is sitting on the back axle, that's going to be pretty close to maxed when you trailer up. Find out if a WDH hitch will increase the receiver capacity on your SUV. Because the WDH transfers some of the weight to your front axle, it reduces the *actual* weight of the trailer that is sitting on the rear, thus allowing for more than (600 lbs in your case) on the receiver. It's close even without a WDH.

If it was me... I would be ok with getting the camper you are looking at. I wouldn't get a bigger one.

And full disclaimer. I towed our camper my first year with a truck that was pretty close to the limits as well. We never towed with full tanks, and we had to be careful about what we took with us.

I traded that truck in after the first year, and now have what I believe to be a much better towing experience.

You may have to just go for it, and upgrade your tow vehicle down the road when your situation warrants that move. If I could do it all over again, I would follow that same approach, again, myself.

Good luck with your choice, you've already done a lot more homework than most that are new here, asking the same questions.
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