Nose high on 5W while towing

deanl · 01-03-2015, 10:15 AM

I have a 2014 Eagle 26.5HT being towed by a 2008 F350 4x4. Cannot drop the nose as it is close to rails. Dual axle, axles are already below the springs. Has Mor/Ryde equalizer with standard mounting hangers. Bottom of trailer is insulated.

1) Has anyone used the spring blocks to raise the trailer about 2"?
2) Any other suggestions to raise the trailer above the axles?
Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Dean

greenenvy1 · 01-03-2015, 01:04 PM

Remove the bed from the truck ha ha

oldmanAZ · 01-03-2015, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by deanl

I have a 2014 Eagle 26.5HT being towed by a 2008 F350 4x4. Cannot drop the nose as it is close to rails. Dual axle, axles are already below the springs. Has Mor/Ryde equalizer with standard mounting hangers. Bottom of trailer is insulated.

1) Has anyone used the spring blocks to raise the trailer about 2"?
2) Any other suggestions to raise the trailer above the axles?
Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Dean

Yup. My F350 4x4 is the same way. Towed many similar 5w years ago. Never created a problem while towing them.

You don't mention why you'd like to level it when being towed. But if you raise it with blocks to be level when towing, it will be higher when parked. Than may make the entry steps awkward and the stabilizer jacks will be extended further.

UPCamper · 01-03-2015, 02:14 PM

I have a similar problem with my F350 and my HT29.5. 2 inches and it would be perfect in the back. My plan is to eventually get wheels 1" bigger. I think that'll help some. Outside of that its not really a problem so I'll just deal with it.

Sledgehammer · 01-03-2015, 03:56 PM

Seems like all the ton trucks are so high in the rear these days.

Not sure you'd want to do it or not, guess it depends on your usage with the truck, but you might could put a shorter block under the rear of your truck. Some of the fords had 4 inch blocks in the rear...and the nose set real low. If you change that out to a 2 inch block your truck will set leveler when empty and you got the 2 inches you needed for your camper. Just a thought.

oldmanAZ · 01-03-2015, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Sledgehammer

snip... Some of the fords had 4 inch blocks in the rear...snip

I believe the 4" blocks are standard with the F350 and the F250's have 2" blocks standard.

If I knew then what I know now...

SMS1115 · 01-03-2015, 04:44 PM

The problem I see is that Jayco says the HT line is half ton towable. You are using a one ton truck to tow a trailer designed for a much lighter duty truck. The one tons sit higher in the rear than the half tons that this trailer was designed to be towed by, there for you have the nose high problem.

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Originally Posted by oldmanAZ

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You don't mention why you'd like to level it when being towed.
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Towing level puts the proper weight distribution on each axle. Nose high puts more weight on the rear axle, nose low over loads the front axle. Obviously he is looking to properly distribute the weight.

Sledgehammer · 01-03-2015, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by oldmanAZ

I believe the 4" blocks are standard with the F350 and the F250's have 2" blocks standard.

If I knew then what I know now...

Yesir that is most common...but I have seen a couple different configurations too...but not often.

gtsum2 · 01-03-2015, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SMS1115

The problem I see is that Jayco says the HT line is half ton towable. You are using a one ton truck to tow a trailer designed for a much lighter duty truck. The one tons sit higher in the rear than the half tons that this trailer was designed to be towed by, there for you have the nose high problem.

Towing level puts the proper weight distribution on each axle. Nose high puts more weight on the rear axle, nose low over loads the front axle. Obviously he is looking to properly distribute the weight.

This here^^^

I almost bought a ht fiver last year until I backed under it with my 2014 ram 3500...I was way nose high with only about 5 inches clearance. Tried getting jayco to put 16 in h wheels on it and they said it wouldn't work. The light pin weight barely made my truck settle as well

goducks · 01-04-2015, 11:50 AM

You could add the Lipper correct track and that will raise the 5er about 1" IIRC. Not a lot but it will help.
https://lci1.com/correct-track-ii

etex211 · 01-04-2015, 02:51 PM

One thing many people overlook is the tire size on the truck. Lots of people want to put oversize tires on their trucks, but don't think about all the other kinds of problems that it causes.

poohbear · 01-05-2015, 08:55 AM

Are your rv axles on top or bottom of springs?
If on top flip them and that should fix it pretty close. It is a pita but easy solution.

gtsum2 · 01-05-2015, 09:04 AM

The newer HT line of fivers already have them flipped, so that option is out. I think one could go to a frame shop and have a lift put on the RV, but I am not sure I would like that too much. With todays newer 4x4's, the bed sits up so high (my bedrail is 59 inches from the ground...bone stock 2014 Ram 3500 SRW), I dont think the HT series and one ton trucks are a good match at all

UPCamper · 01-05-2015, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by gtsum2

The newer HT line of fivers already have them flipped, so that option is out. I think one could go to a frame shop and have a lift put on the RV, but I am not sure I would like that too much. With todays newer 4x4's, the bed sits up so high (my bedrail is 59 inches from the ground...bone stock 2014 Ram 3500 SRW), I dont think the HT series and one ton trucks are a good match at all

I have a 1 ton and an HT. It's no problem at all. It would look a little better if the trailer were and inch or two higher but it's never been a problem operationally.

Sledgehammer · 01-05-2015, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by gtsum2

The newer HT line of fivers already have them flipped, so that option is out. I think one could go to a frame shop and have a lift put on the RV, but I am not sure I would like that too much. With todays newer 4x4's, the bed sits up so high (my bedrail is 59 inches from the ground...bone stock 2014 Ram 3500 SRW), I dont think the HT series and one ton trucks are a good match at all

I guess to get the towing capacity, they have to make them taller. I looked at a new 2500 lonestar yesterday...could set my chin on the bedrail. Yup, right at 59-60 inches.

Granted my old wornout Ford has less power, a lot more miles, a lot more wear, and don't look near as good as any the new trucks, but it fits my HT29.5 perfect. Bed rail is 53''. Have 9 inches between bedrail and bottom of camper. Truck and camper set about as level as it can get.

Sledgehammer · 01-05-2015, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by UPCamper

I have a 1 ton and an HT. It's no problem at all. It would look a little better if the trailer were and inch or two higher but it's never been a problem operationally.

Nice rig! Doesn't look too nose high to me.

Not sure about you guys trailer, but my bottom step is close enough to the ground I could put a 1-2'' block under my trailer if I needed too and be fine. 2'' would be pushing it though IMO. Much taller and it will be bumping 13' to the AC.

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