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02-12-2018, 06:39 PM
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02-13-2018, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by repacs0103
Ah makes perfect sense.
As for the charts I agree that’s ideal- but the statement that running at max psi will cause premature wear in the center of the tread is just not true, at least in my experience. I run my F350 tires at 80 year round in the back; my steers run 65 in the summer and 80 in the winter when it carries a plow, and I’ve never had any abnormal wear. I also run my wife’s car at 45 with a max sidewall pressure of 48 because I want fuel mileage- 67,000 miles and counting on her Goodyear Eagle Sports and zero center wear on tires loaded nowhere near max.
Food for thought.
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curious what is calculated MPG delta is between max tire pressure and recommended?
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02-13-2018, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by curver900
curious what is calculated MPG delta is between max tire pressure and recommended?
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No idea, we don’t calculate her car. I’ve always ran near sidewall max on all our vehicles because I’ve never suffered any ill effects from it and it’s habit because I run my trucks past gvw and tow rating.
I’m one of those that ignores the door placard because I’ve never ran the same tires that the door sticker referenced as I don’t buy new vehicles.
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02-15-2018, 07:38 AM
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I like the research you're doing here. I'm in a similar situation with my 1/2 ton and E rated tires. I run 35 daily and 45 towing. My sticker is about 3900 lbs at 35 psi. I know similar aluminum rims max out at 60 so no way do I air up to 80. E is overkill but I like the rigidity and durability of the heavier tires. I have the inflation chart also but other beat me to it.
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02-15-2018, 09:07 AM
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Now I'm no expert, but I always wondered this. With the stiffer sidewalls on a lighter truck, when running them at lower pressures, do you introduce extra heat by flexing those stiff sidewalls?
I've never run lower than 50 PSI on the E-rated tires on half tons or any truck. But that's not based on any science at all.
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02-15-2018, 09:10 AM
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I think that's where the load chart comes in. Each tire is rated for 'x' amount of pounds at 'x' amount of pressure. Yes a tire generates more heat when inflated less, but if the tire is inflated less that 'should' mean its carrying less weight.
A max inflated tire carrying its max load should generate the same heat as the same tire inflated to 45psi carrying the appropriate load for 45 psi.
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02-17-2018, 04:21 AM
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Unless the truck comes OEM with LRE tires, which mine does.
And the tire stricker on the door says 55# psi in the front tires and 60# psi in the rear tires.
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Originally Posted by 2naEagle
Glad that helps. A load range "E" is a lot of tire for a F150.
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02-17-2018, 06:14 AM
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You have the HD package on a steel truck - I bet your axle ratings are much higher then us aluminum trucks with standard axles.
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02-17-2018, 08:34 AM
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That is true. 4050# in the front, and 4800# in the rear. I pull a middle weight trailer, 23RB. It has a 6500# GVWR and is 27' long. But it definitely pulls nicely behind my truck.
One drawback to the HDPP is the requirement of having a long bed. Because of this, my SuperCab has the 8' bed and 163" wheel base. Great stability towing, but hell in a parking lot.
This is the combo I plan on using until I get to the point of just not feeling like doing Rv'ing any longer.
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You have the HD package on a steel truck - I bet your axle ratings are much higher then us aluminum trucks with standard axles.
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02-17-2018, 09:00 AM
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That is true. 4050# in the front, and 4800# in the rear.
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That’s a big swing from the 3450/3800 that the rest of us have. 17 inch tires (if you have them) I think would also dictate higher pressure.
That plus your HD rims would all add up to a higher psi number on your placard.
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02-18-2018, 08:14 AM
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This is all true. I used to have a 2005 F150 XLT, 4x4, 6.5' box, 5.4L Triton engine. I used it to pull a trailer from VA to CA and return. But the trailer was even light than what i have now. It's GVWR was only 4990.
When I decided to change trucks, I intentionally went looking for a truck with the HDPP. My old truck had a CC of 1400+. I wasn't going to trade for a new truck where I gained only a couple of hundred pounds of cargo capacity. My Virginia dealer finally found 4 HDPP equipped trucks up in Pennsylvania. He secured one and here I am. My current 2014 all steel HDPP truck has a CC of 2286#.
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Originally Posted by Jopopsy
That’s a big swing from the 3450/3800 that the rest of us have. 17 inch tires (if you have them) I think would also dictate higher pressure.
That plus your HD rims would all add up to a higher psi number on your placard.
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