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Old 11-09-2015, 01:54 PM   #11
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+1 for taking a look at the 3500. Does the 3500 come in mega cab SRW? I only see them in DRW around here.

That Cummins is a heavy beast. My gasser has about 1K lbs more payload because I DON'T have the diesel.

Just food for thought: Do you really need the Mega Cab? It doesn't really give you that much more rear seating room over the crew cab. Most of the extra space in the Mega is behind the rear seat. When it was time for me to make the decision, I sat in both, and decided I didn't need the extra storage. The rear passenger space was more important to me, so I abandoned the Mega Cab as an option.
interesting that you mention it. the Dodge 2500 (and the 3500 I think) has a higher payload rating with the 6.4 hemi than with the 6.7 cummins. Therefore you can tow a heavier 5ver with a hemi than with a cummins.
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Old 11-09-2015, 02:41 PM   #12
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interesting that you mention it. the Dodge 2500 (and the 3500 I think) has a higher payload rating with the 6.4 hemi than with the 6.7 cummins. Therefore you can tow a heavier 5ver with a hemi than with a cummins.
It's all in the motor; the Diesel is very heavy. Granted, the Hemi has the payload advantage, but the Cummins has a SIGNIFICANT pulling advantage.
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Old 11-09-2015, 09:40 PM   #13
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It's all in the motor; the Diesel is very heavy. Granted, the Hemi has the payload advantage, but the Cummins has a SIGNIFICANT pulling advantage.

X2 for any diesel. You may loose some payload but a gasser will not tow anywhere near as good.
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Old 11-12-2015, 11:11 PM   #14
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I can also say that at 3 friends own 2014+ 2500's, all with the 6.7 4x4, 2 of them Megacab's, and the other a crew cab......they all tow way heavier trailers (33'-36')then the 9,000 lb 26' trailer I want to pull.... None of them have a problem towing their trailers which makes me think that the 2500 would be more then plenty to tow the small 26' fiver I'm looking at. They are way over their payloads without any problems. Is it possible that the payload on the 2500 is just way under rated??
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Old 11-13-2015, 08:51 AM   #15
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I can also say that at 3 friends own 2014+ 2500's, all with the 6.7 4x4, 2 of them Megacab's, and the other a crew cab......they all tow way heavier trailers (33'-36')then the 9,000 lb 26' trailer I want to pull.... None of them have a problem towing their trailers which makes me think that the 2500 would be more then plenty to tow the small 26' fiver I'm looking at. They are way over their payloads without any problems. Is it possible that the payload on the 2500 is just way under rated??
Supposedly it's all about the suspension. Many say that the axle, tires, brakes, ... are all the same between the 2500 & 3500. Back in the day when they were both leaf sprung rear ends, the difference was the 3500 had extra leaf(s). Now the 2500 is coil sprung while the 3500 still uses leaves.

Of course, there are transmission and gearing differences between the Diesel and the Gasser, but from what I understand, it's just suspension within the engine class.

I also have a neighbor who uses an 05(?) 2500 with the 5.7 and I'm quite sure he's over on payload too, but it safely pulls his 5er to his satisfaction, so whatever. He likes to break stuff and spend his time fixing it!
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So while sorting all this out I learned the following for my specific truck....

Front GAWR = 6,000 lbs
Rear GAWR = 6,500 lbs
Total = 12,500 lbs

Why does the truck only have a 10,000 GVWR, If the axles in tandem are able to support 12,500 lbs?

12,500 lbs - trucks base weight (7,971lbs) leaves me with what I would see as a 4529 lb payload....of course before adding all fluids, people, gear, etc.....

Am I looking at this wrong?
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So while sorting all this out I learned the following for my specific truck....

Front GAWR = 6,000 lbs
Rear GAWR = 6,500 lbs
Total = 12,500 lbs

Why does the truck only have a 10,000 GVWR, If the axles in tandem are able to support 12,500 lbs?

12,500 lbs - trucks base weight (7,971lbs) leaves me with what I would see as a 4529 lb payload....of course before adding all fluids, people, gear, etc.....

Am I looking at this wrong?

It's a registration thing. Most states 10,000 or less is registered the same as a 1/2ton. Go beyond 10,000 you pay more, sometimes significantly more in registration fees. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Same deal on mine...both axles are 3,900 so I would figure a 7,800 lb GVWR, but sticker says 6,900 lbs. My thought is how is the average person going to perfectly balance the weights between the axles unless they are on a scale if they want to max it out...so the lower number is there to allow for wiggle room.
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So, can anyone put up a pic or list what the GAWRs are on a 3500? That should be the telltale giveaway, don't you think?

My truck (2015 RAM 2500 Crew, 6.4L HEMI, 4x4) lists the front axle GAWR at 5500 and rear axle GAWR at 6500 (that's 12K for those numerically challenged ). And lists the vehicle GVWR at 10K. That's per the VIN plate on the vehicle.

Anyone know what the sticker says on a 3500?

It's not uncommon for the axles to add up to more than the GVWR, but I'm just curious what those are in the 1-Tons.
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