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Old 11-30-2015, 09:34 AM   #31
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My image did not want to load. My Ram 3500 SRW diesel 4wd mega cab short bed

GVWR: 12,300

Front axle: 6,000

Rear axle: 7,000

Payload on sticker is 4,133
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Old 11-30-2015, 09:37 AM   #32
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My scale weight with wife and kids =

Front axle 5,180
Rear axle 3,480

Gross weight with full fuel and family is 8,660
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Old 11-30-2015, 09:52 AM   #33
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I thought RAWR was higher than 6500#. I knew GVWR was 12,300# for the 3500 SRW.. Same as my 2012 dually��
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Old 11-30-2015, 03:43 PM   #34
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Interesting! I would expect the rear GAWR on the 3500s to be north of 8K... As it is they're only 500 lbs different.
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Old 11-30-2015, 06:29 PM   #35
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comparing an F150 gasser to a 3/4 ton diesel equipped truck, and saying you wouldn't come out ahead, even with more GCWR, GVWR AND RAWR, and much more grunt??

That's a stretch, more grunt with the diesel, better mpg , even over the 3/4 ton 6.4. If you don't believe it, go to the Cummins forum and get real life experiences from those who had a diesel, went to the 6.4 hemi, then went back to the Cummins. Diesels will normally have higher GCWR than the gas equipped trucks, comparing apples to apples...Also, GVWR on most Ram 3500 SRW trucks is 12,300#.... 2300# higher than a 2500 trucks 10000#, and RAWR is, as stated, also higher on the 3500SRW
Sorry, I should have stipulated I was PURELY talking about the available payload numbers from the manufacturer, thats all. Definitely cant speak power wise, I am quite sure mileage and power is better with the turbo diesels of each brand variety. Its also quite clear that if your gonna tow over payload, your MUCH better (safer) doing it with the 3/4 Ton units with the artificial 10,000 lb GVWR limit which usually share axles etc with their 1 ton counterparts than a half ton thats at its maxes to get to its GVWR.

For example, when I was shopping, and was looking at the Diesel payload numbers, I was finding remaining payloads of 2093 lbs on a '15 F250 Crew with the powerstroke, compared to my '13 F150 Supercrew Maxtow at 1832, that wasn't a whole lot of gain (on payload). The same '15 F250 similarly equipped in a Gasser had 2791 payload remaining.

The other brands were similar numbers.
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Old 11-30-2015, 06:47 PM   #36
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Something is off here. When you search inventory on the Ram web site none of the 2500 Mega Cabs are north of 2300# payload and all the 3500 show 3900# for SRW .

This would make more sense to me with the coils vs leafs. Might want to confirm the specs with Ram.

The 3500 spring pac is stiff. My unit only makes my bed sink an inch.
I think you are only seeing diesel trucks with that 2300 lbs payload.

My 2015 CC with the CTD is rated at 2300 lbs payload.
My friend has a 2015 CC with the 6.4 and is rated at 3100 lbs payload.

I have 250 lbs higher rating on my front axle than he does, since I have the diesel.

I have no doubt in my mind that the rear coils can easily support 3100+lbs. The low payload number is only because I have a 3/4 ton truck, class limited to 10K lbs GVWR. While I haven't tried it and certainly don't condone it, I imagine I could easily exceed my 2300 lbs payload by half a ton and have no adverse effects.

One of the guys that we camp with has a MASSIVE 40' 5er with 3 huge slides that he pulls with a 2014 Ram 2500 with the CTD. I know for a fact he is WAY over payload just with pin weight, not even including his family of 4 and a huge St Bernard dog. It wouldn't surprise me if he is 1500+ lbs over his GVWR. Truck pulls fine and doesn't squat more than about 2 inches.
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Payload vs. Kingpin Tongue weight confusion

I'm not advocating or condoning it but my 2013 GMC CC 4x4 with a 6.5ft bed tows a 16,000#, 42.5' 5th wheel. Pin weight of 4000#'s.

I'm going to upgrade to a 2015/2016 3500 SRW before spring towing season. My current truck doesn't ride or squat any different than when I towed my 37' 11,000 5th wheel.
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Interesting! I would expect the rear GAWR on the 3500s to be north of 8K... As it is they're only 500 lbs different.
RAWR IS 1k difference between the 2500 and 3500 SRW... GVWR OF 2500 is 10,000#, on the 3500SRW, it's 12,300#.

The dually offers a RAWR of 9750# and a GVWR of 14,000#.
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RAWR IS 1k difference between the 2500 and 3500 SRW... GVWR OF 2500 is 10,000#, on the 3500SRW, it's 12,300#.

The dually offers a RAWR of 9750# and a GVWR of 14,000#.
According to the chart presented by mtedelen, and hboy's sticker numbers, at least in the mega cab SRW configuration, the rear axles are only rated 500 lbs apart. DRW is a different animal, and that 9750 rating doesn't surprise me. What surprises me is the low rear GAWR on the SRW configurations.
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Here are the pics from Ram 3500 Diesel; 4wd; Mega cab; SRW; factory gooseneck 5th wheel prep;
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