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Old 01-07-2014, 11:12 PM   #1
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Practical Caravan Volvo V60 Tow Test

An interesting test of a Volvo V60 diesel hybrid towing a travel trailer. Wish we got this car here.



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Old 01-08-2014, 08:00 AM   #2
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Interesting ratios....4,000lb tow capacity / 200lb tongue weight

My UK "Pounds" to US Dollar conversion are quite rusty....but I'm estimating about $80,000 USD. Gotta love that performance, though.....
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That's neat!
Wish one of the big three truck manufacturers would make a diesel hybrid one ton truck.
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Where hybrid vehicles really shine is with stop and go city driving.
Not nearly so much with highway driving.
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Where hybrid vehicles really shine is with stop and go city driving.
Not nearly so much with highway driving.
That's where the diesel engine comes in. Shame they are so rare in North America.
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Interesting ratios....4,000lb tow capacity / 200lb tongue weight

My UK "Pounds" to US Dollar conversion are quite rusty....but I'm estimating about $80,000 USD. Gotta love that performance, though.....
The Brits always seem to get seriously overcharged for things so you can't convert directly. I'd guess $60k which is still a lot for a Volvo. Great car though for people with smaller trailers.
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That's where the diesel engine comes in. Shame they are so rare in North America.
If you watch the video closely, the host says that for towing, the power of both the electric motor and the diesel are required to make it happen. In this scenario, there is little or no power left to charge the battery, so the net effect is the battery is slowly depleted. You eventually will need to stop to re-charge. This can be overcome by adding capacity to the power train, but the car maker doesn't do that.

edit: every diesel locomotive is in fact hybrid technology. Have been for 60 years. The propulsion motor is electric and the diesel motor turns a generator. They are built to a size required for the work they need to do. Hybrid cars on the other hand rely heavily on stored energy in a large 300 volt battery. It comes down to balancing the 3 energy supplies in a hybrid for a given driving application. The three are; 1) electric battery, 2) diesel motor with fuel, and 3) battery charging from a generator driven by the diesel motor and the recovered kinetic energy from braking action.

It would be interesting if this car maker would publish the energy budget for the vehicle, so the true towing capacity and towing range would be known. I for one would not want to run out of energy on a remote road. Running out of gas takes on new meaning
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I saw that Volkswagen is coming out with a diesel hybrid in an SUV this next year. The torque is supposed to be more than the torque in the Ram 1500 little diesel. Be interesting to see how much it will tow, hopefully more than 200 pounds tongue weight.
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If you watch the video closely, the host says that for towing, the power of both the electric motor and the diesel are required to make it happen. In this scenario, there is little or no power left to charge the battery, so the net effect is the battery is slowly depleted. You eventually will need to stop to re-charge.
They are calling it a hybrid...but it sounds more like the Chevy Volt (plug-in recharge) than a Prius.

The Volvo runs on Diesel, Electric or both (the fun doesn't stop should the battery deplete) . But like the new performance hybrids....it's more of a way to get higher performance and greater torque (when called for) with the benefit of better fuel economy (when you don't need it). Even if the battery depletes - the 200+ HP Diesel will provide more than adequate towing power....without the 10mph per second accelleration.

The diesel locomotive is different. It's a diesel engine driving a generator which powers electric traction motors at the axles. None of those operate to provide power independent of the other. Not sure it qualifies as a "hybrid".
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