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Old 07-16-2015, 09:17 PM   #31
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I ran my Titan close to the limits and lost the rear after only a few thousand miles of towing. I will never do it again. Bought an f250 and an amazed at the difference in suspension stiffness.
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Old 07-16-2015, 09:26 PM   #32
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One of the earlier posts showed your dry weight at 6000 lbs. that is before you put anything in it. But jayco is tricky, they don't include everything in that catalog number. I bet your new trailer weighs 6500 lbs. check the yellow sticker. I think with a full tank of water you will put another 1200 to 1500 pounds. That is 7700 to 8000 lbs of final towed weight and a target hitch weight of 1100 lbs. pretty spicy tongue weight for a 1/2 ton suspension. Like others said CAT scale.
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Old 07-18-2015, 08:01 AM   #33
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Ram 2500

Thank you again for everyone's thoughtful input and the time invested in my topic.

After much deliberation, I swapped the Tundra out for a RAM 2500 with the Cummins diesel.

Out here in sunny AZ, escaping the heat to camp means BIG climbs (and downhills) both ways. For those familiar, the Verde Valley is a killer....Sunset Point a close second.

Anyway, you guys gave good information and swayed me that I'd just be safer and happier not pushing it.
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Cummins... Now, I'm jealous!! Congrats, you will nor regret it!
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Old 07-18-2015, 09:54 AM   #35
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Considering water weighs about 8 1/2 lbs. per gallon, that would be close to 700 lbs right there. Myself, I wouldn't want 700 lbs of water sloshing side-to-side while towing. It may not seem like it but, you'll definately notice it.
Most water tanks have baffles to minimize sloshing.

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OK, we are considering buying this same trailer, Jayflight 27.

We have a 2010 F150 Supercrew, 5.4L with 3:73 axle and what is called the "max trailer towing package" and 20 inch tires, if that makes any difference!

When I look it up online, it's max towing is 11,200. But I can't find anything on the sticker that shows this. The only thing the stickers show is below:

GVWR 7700lbs
Front GAWR 4050 lbs
Rear GAWR 4050lbs
Payload 1465

Will we be OK?
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Payload is the problem. If you add a 1200 lb tongue weight, You, and all your guests need to total less than 265. For me, that would mean I go alone with 15 lbs to spare...
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Payload is the problem. If you add a 1200 lb tongue weight, You, and all your guests need to total less than 265. For me, that would mean I go alone with 15 lbs to spare...
Actually, the payload on a Ford is figured after the driver and full tank of gas.

ykcamom, looking at the Ford stats for 2010 here:

https://www.ford.com/resources/ford/...vF150sep09.pdf

I'd say you'd be okay. The trailer hitc on your truck is rated 1,130 pounds. Just to be safe, if you buy the trailer, go to a CAT scale and check everything. You may have to rearrange how you load the trailer, but I would not be afraid to tow this sized trailer with your F150.

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Putting it to the experts please....

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Actually, the payload on a Ford is figured after the driver and full tank of gas.

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No it doesn't. The towing limit accounts for that, not the payload. The payload sticker on the door is what you can carry. That means ALL passengers (including driver), cargo, dealer installed accessories and anything you installed. The payload number on your door is the GVWR - curb weight. The curb weight is the weight of the vehicle with a full tank of gas and all fluids full; no people.
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Putting it to the experts please....

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Payload is the problem. If you add a 1200 lb tongue weight, You, and all your guests need to total less than 265. For me, that would mean I go alone with 15 lbs to spare...

On top of that, that F-150 hitch is likely to have an 1150# maximum tongue weight. So if the trailer tongue is that heavy, they can't carry it wether or not they have the payload.

Our tongue is 771# on our trailer and we have a slightly higher payload at 1522# in our F-150 SuperCrew with Max Tow. With cargo, 2 small adults and a couple small kids, we are at our rear axle rating and used up most of the payload. Not a snowball's chance in H-E-double hockey sticks could we carry a 1200# tongue weight trailer.
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