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Old 07-16-2015, 09:11 AM   #1
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Putting it to the experts please....

I will be towing a Jay Flight 27RLS with the extra water capacity (82 gallons) I assume the GVW listed at 8750 takes this into account.

TV is a 2011 Toyota Tundra crewmax 4x4 with the 5.7l V8 and tow package. Full WD / anti-sway set up including the Husky anti-sway brake-like device. I've seen several different figures for the max tow capacity, but none less than 9000.

opinions? dare I ask. We do pull a 125 mile stretch that starts at 1300 and ends at 6800.

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Old 07-16-2015, 09:30 AM   #2
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Your tongue weight could be as high as 1312 pounds or more, depending on where your water tanks are located and how you pack things. So you have to take that into consideration. Also, you must add that max tongue weight, the weight of your hitch, all cargo/gear you might load into your truck bed, plus the weight of all passengers to come up with your cargo weight. Compare that to the cargo capacity of your vehicle.

The cargo weight and the weight of the vehicle must also be added together and compared to the GVWR of your Tundra. Then you be the judge.
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Old 07-16-2015, 09:33 AM   #3
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Check the door pillars on your truck.. it should show the max tow capacity for your truck as it left the factory... don't forget to add weight of all passengers+ cargo in the truck
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In order for you to get good opinions you need to provide more information Check the link below to give you a better idea of your weights


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Check the door pillars on your truck.. it should show the max tow capacity for your truck as it left the factory... don't forget to add weight of all passengers+ cargo in the truck
The door pillar sticker should also give you the Max Cargo Capacity and the GVWR, which will most likely be your limiting factors. I'm sure your powertrain is capable of pulling the load (towing capacity), but the other two figures are the limits to how much your truck's suspension can safely carry. Two different things.

Also note that the GVWR printed on your trailer's sticker is the weight limit for how much your trailer's axles and/or tires can carry. Usually, the tires are the limiting factor. So if that sticker says GVWR is 8750#, that implies the weight of the trailer, water in tanks, awning, propane tanks, and then, food/gear/beverages. You would be surprised how much all that stuff can weigh and how quickly it adds up. And if your water tanks are forward of the axles, the tongue weight can increase with tanks filled.
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[QUOTE=dangerdave;322367]I will be towing a Jay Flight 27RLS with the extra water capacity (82 gallons) I assume the GVW listed at 8750 takes this into account. [QUOTE]
I expect the TT's GVWR is more related to what the axles can support than the weight you can add.

If the max tow weight for a base Tundra is 9000# I would expect your model to be less since it's 4x4 and crewmax.
That said, I would also expect you to max out the rear axle before hitting the GVWR or max tow numbers.

Water weighs in at 8.34 lb/gal so you could add 683# in just water alone. Considering some additional weight of hot dogs and adult bev's could make you a tad heavy. I'd suggest visiting the scales with a load of water and fuel and people to see where you are weight wise. "It's the only way to be sure."
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thanks

Thank you all for the great info.

According to my sticker I'm GAWR FRT: 4000 GAWR RR: 4150 with a GVWR of 7200

I have the tow package and the TRD suspension. Looking up my exact model in the owner's manual, it says for my model it's 9000 pounds.

The specs of the TT say 8750 GVWR.
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Thank you all for the great info.

According to my sticker I'm GAWR FRT: 4000 GAWR RR: 4150 with a GVWR of 7200

I have the tow package and the TRD suspension. Looking up my exact model in the owner's manual, it says for my model it's 9000 pounds.

The specs of the TT say 8750 GVWR.
It will be VERY close, for every spec. If your trailer is fully loaded (GVWR), it will weigh 8750#, and then you only have 250# of cargo to spare. Just the passengers will probably put you over.
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Hmm

Scoutr2 thank you.

Interesting information.

Because I'm close, and I know all the cautionary caveats....

Honestly how conservative are these figures? Do I have ANY leeway on this?

If I'm 500 over am I going off the road in a fiery ball of death?
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Looking up your truck specs, I would say you will be beyond your limits. There is MORE than trailer weight to consider, as Scoutr2 pointed out. You are okay, but pushing it, with total trailer weight. You run into problems with your Tow Vehicle's payload, tongue weight, and probably rear axle load.

What I find gives the curb weight of your vehicle to be 5660 lbs. at 7200 GVW, this only allows you to carry 1540 lbs. This would be all passengers, cargo in the bed, and TONGUE WEIGHT. As Scoutr2 said, your tongue weight could be as high as 1300 lbs, leaving only 240 remaining for you, passengers, and cargo. whether that will exceed you rear axle, a scale would have to tell you that one. However, Toyota specs the MAX tongue weight for your truck at 1010 to 1050 depending on exact model. 12% of your trailer max is 1050 lbs. (12% being a good tongue weight) but could be as high as 15%, or 1300+ lbs.

Sunset Point will be NO FUN to pull up, and coming down it with the curves will be no fun either!!! ( I am in Sierra Vista, and camp near Flag, or at the rim, and I tow a very similar weight trailer, but with a 1 ton dually diesel. Overkill, but worth it!)
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