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Old 02-17-2013, 05:51 PM   #21
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Old 02-17-2013, 06:02 PM   #22
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Not sure, that`s the first time I`ve seen that. But since the placement and weight of cargo in the bed of your truck can vary each trip you make, it would seem problematic to size spring bars accordingly.
I guess the reason I am asking is this was how I decided to use 800lb bars vs 600lb. Our trailer has a GVWR of 3500lb and as I found out today, the tongue weight is 620lbs! That is a little high, so I will adjust that.
Our trailer had a so called "dry" hitch weight of 405lbs, add a battery and it goes right to 450lbs. Figuring the high side at 15%, we would have 525lbs on the hitch plus say 100lbs behind the axle of the TV, plus the weight of the WDH itself, it seemed to me 600lb bars would not be enough.

I would agree that weight will vary, but it all will a little.
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Old 02-17-2013, 06:03 PM   #23
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Here are the 2011 specs

186BH
Weights
Unloaded vehicle weight (lbs) 4,015
Hitch weight (lbs) 490
Gross vehicle weight (lbs) 6,000
Cargo carrying capacity (lbs) 1,985
Measurements
Exterior length 22' 5"
Exterior height w/AC 128"
Interior height (living area) 81"
Tank Capacities
Fresh water tank (gals) includes water heater 90
Gray wastewater tank capacity (gals) 32.5
Toilet/black wastewater capacity (gals) 32.5
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Sleeping capacity 5-7


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Old 02-17-2013, 06:06 PM   #24
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I guess the reason I am asking is this was how I decided to use 800lb bars vs 600lb. Our trailer also has a GVWR of 3500lb and as I found out today, the tongue weight is 620lbs! That is a little high, so I will adjust that.
Our trailer had a so called "dry" hitch weight of 405lbs, add a battery and it goes right to 450lbs. Figuring the high side at 15%, we would have 525lbs on the hitch plus say 100lbs behind the axle of the TV, plus the weight of the WDH itself, it seemed to me 600lb bars would not be enough.
I agree these tongue weights can be surprisingly high compared to the published tongue weights. I originally had 750 lb bars and had to upgrade to 1200 lb bars as my TW is nearly 1000 lbs. compared to a published empty TW of 750lbs.
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Now i'm confused, is the 186bh 3500 or 6000 gvwr.
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Old 02-17-2013, 06:29 PM   #26
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Now i'm confused, is the 186bh 3500 or 6000 gvwr.
6000 according to Starcraft archives, and the OP`s numbers in the first post.


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I would agree that the Curt WDH, Equal-i-zer WDH, and Reese Strait-Line (Dual Cam) WDH brands may be equal in quality, but they do differ in design/function. All three brand/models referenced will distribute weight, but the Equal-i-zer WDH and Reese Strait-Line WDH have integrated sway control where the Curt WDH requires an additional product for sway control.

The Curt WDH (with remote friction control sway arm) and Equal-i-lizer WDH sway controls are "reactive" in function, thus reacting to a sway event once it's actually started. The Reese Strait-Line (Dual Cam) sway control is "pro-active" in function by design. The Reese design of the spring bars maintains considerable force over the cams which reduces the probability of a sway event starting by constantly forcing the TT to tow in a straight line.

IMO a WDH with "integrated" sway control offers up-graded features above a standard WDH w/friction sway control arm, as mentioned in prior posts. Yes, IMO the Hensley Arrow WDH has up-graded design features above a WDH with "integrated" sway control.

From a safety and performance standpoint...., IMO any WDH with some means of sway control that is sized and adjusted properly will deliver acceptable results. As most of us know, no WDH and/or Sway Control device can compensate for poor maintenance and/or safety practices associated with any given TV and/or TT (over weight, low tire psi, speed, etc.).

The 2010 186BH has a GVWR of 3,500lbs, I also agree that 600lb rated WDH (if available) would be adequate even loaded at the GVWR.

Just my thoughts.

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ON EDIT: If you should consider the Reese Strait-Line (Dual Cam), I believe that it requires a minimum 400lb loaded tongue weight.... please confirm.
I think this thread got me to think 3500, sorry
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Yeah I think my buddy Rustic Eagle may have gotten that one mixed up with another model...He`s human too........
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Yeah I think my buddy Rustic Eagle may have gotten that one mixed up with another model...He`s human too........
No less human then me Crabman, i just thought i was loosing it for a while.
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No less human then me Crabman, i just thought i was loosing it for a while.
I apologize for stating the incorrect 2010 186BH GVWR reference ...., guess I had one of those senior moments and shouldn't try to multi-task!

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snip......The 2010 186BH has a GVWR of 3,500lbs, I also agree that 600lb rated WDH (if available) would be adequate even loaded at the GVWR..... snip
The GVWR of 3,500lbs I stated was incorrect, it should read GVWR of 6,000lbs., thus a minimum 800lb rated WDH would be a better choice.

2010 Starcraft 186BH specifications: http://www.rvguide.com/specs/starcra...dge/186bh.html

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