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Old 08-12-2015, 01:51 PM   #11
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I have Timbrens on my truck as well. But I like you are far from overloaded. I have 1100lbs left on the RAWR and 4000lbs left on the GCVWR. My point to the OP who's towing a large TT with a Laramie 1500 Eco diesel. Rams are typically low on payloads at least until 2014 with the 2500-3500. But the 1500 and especially in the ED model are really low on payload. JMO but the OP is trying to do too much with too little. If he had either an F150 Max Tow or a GM with the heavy duty tow package he would even need any suspension help.

Not trying to be rude, just pointing out some facts. I don't need my Timbrens either but like you they give the truck a more stable ride. I guess you could go even further and say if I had a DRW I wouldn't need the Timbrens. But unlike the OP both of us are well with in are payload ratings and just looking for a suspension enhancement, not a band aide.


This post is typical of 1/2 ton owners trying to do too much. Not all 1/2 tons are created equal. Some are more limited than others. Too many 1/2 ton'rs look at only the tow rating, not the payload rating.
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Old 08-12-2015, 02:14 PM   #12
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I would agree with those points, especially the Tow rating versus the payload rating. Unfortunately, I don't know what to tell the OP. My truck is a dually and I still find them helpful, just FYI if you decide to go dually in the future. I have them because a previous owner wanted less "rock" with a pickup camper. I keep them because my fifth wheel has a 3,000 lb pin weight.

I might also ask what wheelbase the OP's truck is. A longer wheelbase can help stability a good bit, provided he is within his limits. Moving forward, I think we will find that the new coil sprung rear suspension just doesn't take a load as well (yet), and is not as forgiving as traditional leaf springs. It seems like they are doing testing on the general public. And yes, they are definately marketing the 1/2 tons like they are the new 1-ton. I am not convinced. I would still like to see how a traditional leaf sprung truck with similar numbers would tow his camper.
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Old 08-12-2015, 02:22 PM   #13
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I would have to agree with goducks. I would not be surprised if the payload on your Laramie Eco Diesel is under 1000lbs.

What is your payload on your door jamb sticker? Should be the same sticker as your tire pressure is written on.

Might be an overloaded rear end causing a harsh ride.
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Old 08-13-2015, 09:46 AM   #14
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Thanks for all the input.

Well it sounds like I am having a different experience than others.

I noticed everyone who is happy with them has a truck with leaf springs; anyone out there with rear coils like my Ram has? Maybe that's the difference?
I don't have a pick up, but my Tahoe is rear coil springs.
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I want to take this opportunity to express my frustration about this forum. I feel like if I don't have a 3/4 or 1 ton truck I shouldn’t even be posting on this forum. I have read many posts where someone is looking for advice on towing with a 1/2 ton truck in a similar circumstance as me and it always seems to lead to you need a new truck. Not everyone has the capacity to trade trucks and have to make do with what they have. Now, I realize there are people who are not aware they are overloaded and need the education...I was there and appreciated the education...but I think that those that are in the position to give this education should make sure they need it before automatically assuming they do.

I am well aware of my situation, I am at or slightly over my GVWR so I load accordingly and I am 1200 lbs under my CGVWR. I knew this when I purchased this camper and I knew it wasn't ideal but I couldn't get a new truck. The timbrens were actually put on the truck with my old camper which was 1200 lbs lighter than this one so I know I did it to compensate for an improperly set up hitch; I wasn't overloaded with that camper. I plan to call timbren and ask for their advice...that is a good idea.

Thanks to those who took the time to respond.
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Old 08-16-2015, 07:21 AM   #16
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Don't feel frustrated. In this type of public forum, when you ask for info or advice you will get all manner of it from one end to the other. You get to read and think about what others think. Don't get to frustrated if many have differing opinions or experience.
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Don't feel frustrated. In this type of public forum, when you ask for info or advice you will get all manner of it from one end to the other. You get to read and think about what others think. Don't get to frustrated if many have differing opinions or experience.
Don't get me wrong...I appreciate the differing opinions and perspectives or I wouldn't be asking. If the bottom line is if I have unrealistic performance expectations of my rig, I can accept that as long as I have exhausted all options to help myself. It would make communication more effective if respondents would ask some questions before rendering judgement on a poster's situation.

Thanks for the encouragement norty1.
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Old 08-16-2015, 06:23 PM   #18
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On my previous TV which was a Chevy 1500 I had Timbrens. With a TW of nearly 1,000 lbs the Timbrens would rest on the axle even with the WD engaged leading to a somewhat rough but tolerable ride. It sounds to me like your Timbrens are bouncing off of but not resting on the axle giving you a "bouncy ride" that you describe. Just a thought, I may be wrong....
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Old 08-16-2015, 06:25 PM   #19
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Are there any options for improving the positioning and stiffness of your rear end? Do they make an air bag setup or is there one you can adapt? On paper your setup should be about as sweet as it gets for the 1/2 tons, but you might be suffering some from being an early adopter in the coil sprung rear end department. What type of tires do you have? Switching to a stiffer E rated highway tire (or a mild AT type) can improve stability also.
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Yep air bags for the 1500 Ram
Firestone 4190 Coil, Work-Rite Air Bags - Dodge Ram 1500 2009-2013 [4190]
I love the air bags under mine and that they are adjustable for the load.
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