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Old 09-22-2014, 10:52 PM   #1
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Hello, looking to buy 23 RB soon. Any suggestions for a Tow vehicle. Going to be doing some extensive travel next year. Any comments on the 23B? Thanks,Rick
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Old 09-22-2014, 11:56 PM   #2
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Rick, I don't have any knowledge of the 23RB. I bought a 24FBS in June and tow with a '05 Sierra 1500 with the 5.3 engine. My trailer is a few pounds over 5,000 with load capacity of about 1500 pounds. The truck pulls it okay as long as I don't get in a hurry. I usually keep my speed below 65 on the freeway, and on the upgrades I will try to keep the tranny from down shifting. When I wear out this truck, I plan to get 3/4 ton truck with at least a 6.0 engine. It'll probably be a while before that happens, though, because my truck odometer is just approaching 100,000 miles.
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Old 09-23-2014, 05:56 AM   #3
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Hello, looking to buy 23 RB soon. Any suggestions for a Tow vehicle. Going to be doing some extensive travel next year. Any comments on the 23B? Thanks,Rick
welcome to the forum.

It is hard to suggest a TV because we don't know what you need. This trailer will have a TW between 600-850lbs so you will need a full size vehicle at a minimum. 1/2 ton or above or full size SuV like an Expy or Tahoe may work
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Old 09-23-2014, 07:38 AM   #4
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“Extensive” needs to be quantified.
Pulling a big flat ended box through the air with a gas engine will get you about 8 to 10mpg, with a diesel that goes up to 12 to 14 mpg. (some will have different result). That difference might matter if extensive means you are doing 100K miles a year. A gas powered truck will get you 150K miles of life and the diesel might get you 300K miles, but the difference in initial cost will not show up until late in the life of either choice. But IMHO, nothing so far mentioned here matters one single bit.

White knuckle reduction is the important thing in choosing a working vehicle.
You get that reduction when you overkill the problem. Bigger than you need, more braking than you need, more power than you need, more space than you need. Put the dog in front of the tail and you will be comfortable in your extensive travel.
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Old 09-23-2014, 07:59 AM   #5
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We're getting a 23B that we plan to initially tow with a Honda Ridgeline. The 23B is right at the outside limit of what the RL can handle. But we don't plan to travel extensively.

If I were going to buy a new TV, I'd take a hard look at Dodge/Jeep with it's new V6 diesel. Might be an option for you if plan to be mostly camping vs mostly moving to the next stop. ie. staying a couple weeks at each stop vs a couple days.
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Old 09-23-2014, 10:28 AM   #6
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rickfriday,

Welcome to JOF

When looking at TV's, many first buyers focus on the TV's published Tow Rating but there is a more important rating that should be considered, that being the TV's Payload Capacity. In most cases one runs out of Payload Capacity before Tow Rating weight limit.

Actual Tow Ratings: https://www.jaycoowners.com/forums/f37/what-is-my-actual-tow-rating-3866.html

Many folks don't realize that a trailer's "loaded" tongue weight and the weight of a WDH (about 50lbs) is subtracted from a TV's Payload Capacity.

For example: The X23B has a GVWR of 4,950lbs, recommend loaded tongue weight is 13% to 15% of a trailer's loaded weight, so this gives us a loaded tongue weight range of 644lbs to 743lb (this is a worst case scenario with the X23B loaded to it's GVWR).

We have different loading habits, but based on other X23B owners feedback the their X23B average "scaled" loaded tongue weights have been in the 600lbs to 650lbs range (based on their respective loading habits).

So confirm that the TV you select will have "available" Payload Capacity to support the X23B's potential loaded tongue weight and WDH. Also confirm that OEM receiver hitch weight limits will as well in WD Mode.

Just food for thought

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The 23RB is the new 22FB and it's by no means a massive trailer. Perfect for a couple, maybe throw in a dog or two. I just looked at a 2015 model last night on a lot. Definitely a happy half ton, gas towable trailer. That being said, you need the right half ton. I pulled a similarly sized trailer with a Max Tow F150 EcoBoost and I wouldn't hesitate to do "extensive travel" with that set up. You don't NEED a 3/4 ton truck or a diesel to tow that trailer but it wouldn't be a mistake if you can afford it.
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rickfriday,

Welcome to JOF

When looking at TV's, many first buyers focus on the TV's published Tow Rating but there is a more important rating that should be considered, that being the TV's Payload Capacity. In most cases one runs out of Payload Capacity before Tow Rating weight limit.

Actual Tow Ratings: https://www.jaycoowners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3866

Many folks don't realize that a trailer's "loaded" tongue weight and the weight of a WDH (about 50lbs) is subtracted from a TV's Payload Capacity.

For example: The X23B has a GVWR of 4,950lbs, recommend loaded tongue weight is 13% to 15% of a trailer's loaded weight, so this gives us a loaded tongue weight range of 644lbs to 743lb (this is a worst case scenario with the X23B loaded to it's GVWR).

We have different loading habits, but based on other X23B owners feedback the their X23B average "scaled" loaded tongue weights have been in the 600lbs to 650lbs range (based on their respective loading habits).

So confirm that the TV you select will have "available" Payload Capacity to support the X23B's potential loaded tongue weight and WDH. Also confirm that OEM receiver hitch weight limits will as well in WD Mode.

Just food for thought

Bob
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The 2015 Honda Ridgeline has a tow rating of 5000# and a payload capacity of 1100#.

They both sound impressive until you read the fine print. Tow ratings and payload capacities usually just include a 150# driver and exclude all passengers.

For a family of 4 towing with the ridgeline:
Payload capacity = 1100#
minus 3 passengers = -450#
minus tongue weight = -650#
minus WD hitch = -50#

Therefore you are at or slightly exceeding the payload capacity of the Honda Ridgeline.

The passenger deductions also apply to the tow rating as well, but the tongue and WD hitch weights are included in the TT GVWR.
tow rating = 5000#
minus 3 passengers = - 450#
minus X23B trailer = - 4950#

Again, This trailer exceeds the towing and payload capacity of the Honda Ridgeline.

this same thought process should be used for whatever TV you choose to buy.

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The 2015 Honda Ridgeline has a tow rating of 5000# and a payload capacity of 1100#.

They both sound impressive until you read the fine print. Tow ratings and payload capacities usually just include a 150# driver and exclude all passengers.

For a family of 4 towing with the ridgeline:
Payload capacity = 1100#
minus 3 passengers = -450#
minus tongue weight = -650#
minus WD hitch = -50#

Therefore you are at or slightly exceeding the payload capacity of the Honda Ridgeline.

The passenger deductions also apply to the tow rating as well, but the tongue and WD hitch weights are included in the TT GVWR.
tow rating = 5000#
minus 3 passengers = - 450#
minus X23B trailer = - 4950#

Again, This trailer exceeds the towing and payload capacity of the Honda Ridgeline.

this same thought process should be used for whatever TV you choose to buy.

Tim.

I don't believe the OP was considering a Honda ridgeline
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IMHO...Get a diesel. You will be good for now and future RV upgrades.
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