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Old 09-26-2011, 06:38 PM   #1
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Towing 2012 35lkts

Buying a pinnacle 35lkts, weighing 12,200 empty. Will be Towing with 2010 Dodge 2500 4x4 6.7 diesel crewcab. I plan on adding air bags although it does not sag hardly at all. Do you think this truck is ample? I've asked two dodge dealerships and they both say it will handle it plus. My dealership told me 15k with no problem. I can't find the tow rate anywhere in my manual so am trying to go by what dealership says. I bought it new and has 17k miles on it. It has a Jake break & six speed tranny. I have a 15000 lb rated easy glide fifth wheel hitch. I notice the 2011 models have increased towing capacity by 2000 lbs but cannot find what changes they have made to increase this much. I just want to be safe and enjoy this new fiver. Any suggestions?
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Old 09-26-2011, 07:06 PM   #2
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Smitty--- Just scroll down from your post --see the jayco towing guide posted by rustic eagle. That should answer your questions or you could also check the factory sticker on the door jam of your tv. Larry
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Smitty,

If you haven't found it, here is a link that member "19H F250" was referring to (large pdf file): http://www.jayco.com/pdfs/DigitalTLTowGuide2011.pdf

Your TV's Tow Rating is just the beginning...., once you confirm it please review this STICKY: https://www.jaycoowners.com/showthread.php?t=3866

Also, ignore unloaded weights, think in terms of loaded weights.

Since you already have the TV, load it up like you were heading out on a camping trip and head to the nearest CAT scale, good opportunity to start with "real weights".

Compare your TV's CAT scale rear axle weight against your TV's Rear GAWR limit (found on driver's door jam). If you have yet to mount the 15K glider hitch, add another 300lbs to the CAT weight to cover the hitch weight. Now, taking 20% (15% to 25% manufacture recommendation) of the Pinnacle 35LKTS GVWR of 15,950lbs (worst case loaded weight) gives you a pin weight of 3,190lbs.

Based on your CAT scale weights do you have enough rear axle capacity left to support the 3,190lb pin weight?? Not knowing your loading habits, it is very possible your actual loaded FW weight could be less, thus resulting in a lower pin weight.

Hope this helps.

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Old 09-27-2011, 10:42 AM   #4
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Bob,
Thanks. I've been looking at a lot of different stickers and I did find the GAWR on my rear axel which is 6,010 LBS. GVWR is 9,600 LBS. Now I have a base to work with. I think I'll be way under that amount. I do not know exactly what the rear weight of my truck is but it is a short box. I figured if I filled the gas tank 300 lbs, my wife and myself 325 lbs (my wife is the light weight) that's 625 lbs plus cargo which we carry very little in the truck when traveling. That total would give us 3,190 lbs (trailer fully weighted), gas & us 625 lbs for a total of 3,815 lbs leaving 2,195 lbs. I did speak with a garage today and they are looking at either extra springs or air bags for my truck. They are making inquires to see which way will be the best for me to go. I'll keep researching from here. Thanks for all your info, very helpful.
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Here is the Dodge towing guide site. You enter the specifics for your vehicle and it will tell you the weight ratings.


http://www.dodge.com/towing/D/vehicl...&engine_trans=
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snip......I did find the GAWR on my rear axle which is 6,010 LBS.....snip
Good find on the rear GAWR.

Please note; The only way to determine how much axle weight is remaining available for the FW pin weight is a visit to a CAT scale......, just adding weights doesn't give you the effect of the weights over the rear axle.

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Lee, thanks for the web link. They go up to a 2009. Not sure if any weight changes were made for 2010 but they did re-vamp the entire truck. Now they say they've increased the towing capacity of the 2011 by 2000 LBS. So far I'm coming up with a towing capacity between 12,500 and 14,500. The dealership told me 14,500 with my truck as it is equipped. I see now, the 2011 tow ratings went up 2000 LBS. I again called the dealership to find what changes were made and no one can tell me. I've got to figure out how to weigh the rear axel. Do you place just the back two tires on the scale?
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That`s a real bummer that it only goes to 09. And equally difficult to understand why it would!
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I feel some of these tow, horsepower/torque ratings are hype. I think the manufactures make these claims to be competitive. Some times the tires can be a week link in towing capacity. I'll bet your 2010 truck will handle that unit as good as any 2500 of any make. I would have to feel for myself how it handled before I upgraded the truck.
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snip.....I've got to figure out how to weigh the rear axel. Do you place just the back two tires on the scale?
Most CAT scales will have three separate weigh platforms, when you are weighing just your TV drive up on the scale and place your front TV axle on the first platform (the one next to the attendant call button), then place your TV rear axle on the second platform...., that's it.

The following forum STICKY is a CAT scale walk through for weighing a TV and TT, but some of the information you may find helpful for just weighing your TV.

https://www.jaycoowners.com/showthread.php?t=3871

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